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Have you tried adjusting the following distance with the buttons on the left? I do that with mine and it greatly decreases people cutting in front. I really like the ACC and use it all the time.
Of course. The closest setting still leaves enough room to cut in.
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Had ACC in a 1500, worked great. Auto braking saved me once from getting Tboned at an intersection. BUt.... I would not buy it in a wrangler, you will be on the steering way more than other vehicles. Plus, you will be the one who gets passed, trying to stay up with someone means constant downshifts. If it has ACC, my 1500 also had autopark, is that a thing in a wrangler? Because it worked like never in the 1500.

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Cold weather group for sure, 100%, but the towing package? I've never towed anything in my life and have no intention of starting. I'll be looking for a 2020 or if I'm lucky, a 2021. If it has the tow package that's great, but it's a "meh" for me. And besides, towing with an inline-4? What can that haul? A pop-up camper, maybe?
The tow package on a 20 or 21 gets you the factory auxiliary switches.
 

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I have a JLUR Rubicon with ACC and safety group. I like them all. I have replaced my windshield with out recalibration and everything still works fine. I would not buy a vehicle without these features.
 

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I love the ACC in mine. Once you figure out its nuances it's really great IMO. I feel like it has more pros than cons.

I test drove the 2.0 and the 3.6 and liked the 3.6 better but that is just a matter of preference.
 

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Of course. The closest setting still leaves enough room to cut in.
As it should.

By law in most, if not every state, and for safety reasons, the rule is to follow no less than three seconds behind the vehicle in front of you. The faster you are going, the longer that three second distance is.

With that said, I too sometimes get frustrated and I close the distance, but I do it knowing it’s a safety and a legal issue. I think that needed to be said in this thread, especially if any new/inexperienced drivers read this.

If one is going to follow that closely, I would think that disengaging the ACC may be safer, as one would pay more attention to their driving. That brings up the question: Is human reaction safer/quicker than the auto emergency braking? At highway speeds, I think I would prefer to rely on my own reactions.
 
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The question of where to find a used Ocean Blue 3.6 with ACC and the HD Towing package, then. I've seen exactly two in the last month and neither lasted more than a day or two on dealership listings. I see a lot of ACC listings but only 1 in 100 are legit. Ad-placers don't know what it is. "Oh, it means cruise control; check!"
 
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As it should.

By law in most, if not every state, and for safety reasons, the rule is to follow no less than three seconds behind the vehicle in front of you. The faster you are going, the longer that three second distance is.
Try leaving a 2 or 3 second space in New Jersey. You'll be hate-passed by 18 wheelers on down. A second here is generous. Anywhere within about a 3 hour drive of NYC (or Boston or Philly) is like that, and I rarely ever leave the I-95 corridor unless I'm going on a camping trip. 95% of my driving is in traffic hell in NJ/NYC.
 

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A diesel would be an impractical for me since I am doing 90% short-duration city driving,
My commute is also very short. So I opted for the 3.6. Turbo’s need time to warm up and it never gets there for me (I have an F150 turbo as well).
 

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Try leaving a 2 or 3 second space in New Jersey. You'll be hate-passed by 18 wheelers on down. A second here is generous. Anywhere within about a 3 hour drive of NYC (or Boston or Philly) is like that, and I rarely ever leave the I-95 corridor unless I'm going on a camping trip. 95% of my driving is in traffic hell in NJ/NYC.
Peter, I TOTALLY get it! It’s the same here in Florida, brother. I-95 is especially deadly in Broward and Miami-Dade County. Again, I only stated what we all already know for the youngsters who may read this thread.
 

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Sensors, all over, forget about non oem bumpers.
As mentioned earlier, the ACC sensors are in a box behind the rearview mirror. The rear bumper does have parking proximity sensors, but those are unrelated to ACC and some aftermarket bumpers have cutouts for them (e.g. RockHard Patriot).
 
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My commute is also very short. So I opted for the 3.6. Turbo’s need time to warm up and it never gets there for me (I have an F150 turbo as well).
Interesting; I never knew that. My only concern with the 3.6 is the valve train issue that morphs into a $20k engine replacement. I have the 3.6 in my WK2 and it's worrisome. But now it's reliable as can be, and I'm always careful to change the engine oil about 5,000 miles or less—always at the dealership, too.
 
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The tow package on a 20 or 21 gets you the factory auxiliary switches.
Yep, probably the best feature. Also a 240 amp alternator which helps provide the juice to those switches.
 

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My commute is also very short. So I opted for the 3.6. Turbo’s need time to warm up and it never gets there for me (I have an F150 turbo as well).
The Wrangler 2.0T gets up to operating temp very quickly, about two minutes in my experience, regardless of ambient temp.
 

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I have a 2020 recon. Nice thing about the recon package is it comes with metal bumpers, the wider mopar rock rails, tow package, and the 2.0 etorque. Other 2.0s that year didn't get etorque, only the recon and the higher end Sierra models. I like the etorque. I'm a gearhead, I work on my own stuff, I turn my own wrenches and I understand how things work. Some people don't trust it, but I like it and it works well for me. It's also been around in the Ram trucks for years even on the 5.7 hemi.
The tow package is nice even if you don't tow. Tow receiver and wired for it if you ever need it, heavier duty alternator and battery, and the AUX panel for add-on electrical equipment.
I'm a big fan of the 2.0, but I have it tuned with a SuperChips TD3. Everything the later models have with offroad+ I got with the TD3 and more (like disconnecting the swaybar in 2Hi). The 2.0 is very peppy. I'm currently still on the factory K02s but ordering a set of 35s. The 2.0 also warms up VERY quickly. No running hot issues for me and I'm in Central Florida. The tune might be bringing the fans on sooner though, not sure. I never looked into it because I never had any issues. Been tuned for almost 30k miles.
I also have the safety packages and ACC. It's in a box behind the mirror. Works great, I like it for long trips. It will bring the vehicle to a complete stop, but... will not hold you stopped indefinitely. It will release the brakes after 30 seconds or so (I forget how long) whether the vehicle in front of you moved or not. A warning comes up on the screen. The emergency braking works too, but I have received a few false positives. Nothing that stopped the jeep, but audible warnings. Never had it slam on the brakes at the wrong time.

Check to make sure yours has the TSB for the steering box. Black iron steering box that replaces the grey aluminum one. Also check the coolant level and look for stains on the drivers side of the block for coolant leaks. Some have loose bolts on the thermostat housing that need to be tightened (and some locktite).
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