I don't want price increases either. Jeep just needs to stop nickel and diming us and just make that stuff standard like every other vehicle in the world without increasing price. He'll a $17k Kia Rio comes standard with power everything. Lol.
The whining started with the thread “392 stripper” where the OP was complaining a 392 should be offered Without all the Options as Standard to get the price down.
Certainly is a change of opinion 
That's totally different. I think every vehicle should come standard with LEDs and power everything. Even the 392. The problem is with the 392 they have the price jacked so high just for 2 extra cylinders. Your paying basically $40k for 2 extra cylinders.The whining started with the thread “392 stripper” where the OP was complaining a 392 should be offered Without all the Options as Standard to get the price down.
That's insane. You can buy another vehicle for that. 
My 392 $77,620, comparably equipped diesel just under $69K add cost of a lift (maybe beadlock capable wheels, I don’t remember if they were an option) The value of the water diverting hood, strengthened frame, fox shocks ( OK, forget that one) and the 2 cylinders weren’t that unreasonably priced. Granted a diesel comparison but it was the only other one considered. Oh yeah, my price included shipping, the diesel B&P ?That's totally different. I think every vehicle should come standard with LEDs and power everything. Even the 392. The problem is with the 392 they have the price jacked so high just for 2 extra cylinders. Your paying basically $40k for 2 extra cylinders.
So I was basically suggesting Stellantis/Jeep at least make a stripper model getting rid of the leather seats and extra stuff to bring the price down to an attainable level for the average person who wants the 392 engine. That's all.
Comparing it against another Jeep isn't really accomplishing anything especially a diesel. All Jeeps are over priced. The 392 is just the King of over price. Lol. And most 392s now are over $80k. It's getting ridiculous.
If 392s were at a 100k.They would still sell them .It’s comes to if you can afford one and want to spend the money ..I would never go back in a Jeep with then less then eight cylinders now.
I like the lighter front end and better handing of the 2.0T. Better for off road and on road in stock form. Unless you dump $20k more into that suspension and set up. I got the chance to take a 392 for a test drive a couple weeks ago. And wow can you feel the weight on the front end and in the steering. And that's on the road. Made my 2.0T handling feel like a sports car. Lol.
We got three 392s in garage.So we will be driving them for awhile .And there not are daily rides .Had all engines ever in a wrangler .And other don’t compare to the 392.And on road a wrangler will never feel like a sports car ether.No matter what motor it has.Got a trackhawk and hellcat for road work
wish they were still at the intro price. My build came in just a hair under 90. My brain tells me this is ridiculous for a Jeep but my gut says I’ll love It.
The 392s are worth the money .Are 23 we’re picking up today was around 92k.I have a window sticker from my loaded 2003 rubicon was. 26k back then
From what I've seen (correct me if I'm wrong) Stellantis can only makes so many 392's (around 6500 - overall fleet mpg?). So if they made say $10k profit on a stripped down version vs $30K on a fully loaded one, and knowing they will sell out (look at the 2022 392 April cutoff) then why would they want to make a stripped down version, thereby limiting the number of fully loaded ones they could sell?So I was basically suggesting Stellantis/Jeep at least make a stripper model getting rid of the leather seats and extra stuff to bring the price down to an attainable level for the average person who wants the 392 engine. That's all.
That's like comparing an American factory made Mustang to a Porsche. You just can't.
Yep— but the point was they will charge as much as the market will bear, or there wouldn’t be $165K G Wagons. PS— I think comparing a 392 to a G Wagon is more like a Corvette to a Porsche than a Mustang , but I might be a bit biased.
