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Yeah, several random Jeeps throughout that video.

The Bronco getting stuck at 7:18 is just so sad.
So much so the Bronco behind it had no issues.
I would the see the comparison on the sway disconnect and the sway disconnect. And to see the actual difference in measurement. How much more does the Jeep drop over the Bronco?
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You should test drive one, I did. It was marginally better than my wrangler on road, but I haven’t had any issues with my Jeep’s on road manners until recently.
What’s going on now with your wrangler?
 

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What’s going on now with your wrangler?
Unusual bounce when going at highway speeds in the front end. It’s not like what you see in the death wobble videos. More like a half inch bounce that occurs every half second. Most noticeable at the end of the hood, but translates throughout the vehicle.

Nothing looks or feels loose on the underside and tire pressure is set to about 32 at the moment. It honestly feels like the front end suspension to stiff, (maybe due to the cold weather?) which is causing a vertical feedback resonance throughout the front end. It is very noticeable at about 65 mph. Once you slow down you can still feel it, but not as bad.

I say it’s less like the death wobble because it’s a vertical bounce and not a side to side shimmy, but I could be wrong. I have an appointment to have it looked at so?‍♂.
 

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I saw an RTI ramp comparison and IIRC the JLUR had more articulation without the sway bar disconnected than the 4 door Bronco had with its sway bar disconnected. If there was any question, it was answered right then and there.

That said, the Bronco is the class of the field among IFS 4x4's. It was a good move to put a disco on it.
 

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I saw an RTI ramp comparison and IIRC the JLUR had more articulation without the sway bar disconnected than the 4 door Bronco had with its sway bar disconnected. If there was any question, it was answered right then and there.

That said, the Bronco is the class of the field among IFS 4x4's. It was a good move to put a disco on it.
The broncos disconnect is rather lackluster in its amount of actual increase in articulation. The biggest savior to a Bronco is front and rear lockers, which was clearly shown with the 1st and 2nd versions that went through that dip in OP's video.

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This is my jeep with stock suspension components (rubicon springs) and bilstein 2-3inch shocks. No rubbing. This is a $400 mod and a fun hr and a half job on the driveway. Good luck getting to this point this easy with a Bronco. They keep comparing it to the wrangler, but it just doesnt.

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Unusual bounce when going at highway speeds in the front end. It’s not like what you see in the death wobble videos. More like a half inch bounce that occurs every half second. Most noticeable at the end of the hood, but translates throughout the vehicle.

Nothing looks or feels loose on the underside and tire pressure is set to about 32 at the moment. It honestly feels like the front end suspension to stiff, (maybe due to the cold weather?) which is causing a vertical feedback resonance throughout the front end. It is very noticeable at about 65 mph. Once you slow down you can still feel it, but not as bad.

I say it’s less like the death wobble because it’s a vertical bounce and not a side to side shimmy, but I could be wrong. I have an appointment to have it looked at so?‍♂.
Hope it works out. My 392 is pulling to the right.
 

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This is my jeep with stock suspension components (rubicon springs) and bilstein 2-3inch shocks. No rubbing. This is a $400 mod and a fun hr and a half job on the driveway. Good luck getting to this point this easy with a Bronco. They keep comparing it to the wrangler, but it just doesnt.

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That is seriously impressive! No IFS will touch it.
 

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This is my jeep with stock suspension components (rubicon springs) and bilstein 2-3inch shocks. No rubbing. This is a $400 mod and a fun hr and a half job on the driveway. Good luck getting to this point this easy with a Bronco. They keep comparing it to the wrangler, but it just doesnt.

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That's a perfect example right there! Bravo!

Litebrite has a video that showed a Ranger with a very pricy lift kit that can accommodate 40's and 42's.
 

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Bronco articulation is pathetic, you'd have to put $10k into that suspension to get it to flex like a JL with longer shocks. This isn't even maxed, $279 rocksport shocks, $300 Rubicon express front LCAs, $250 icon front springs, $250 rock krawler rear springs. Just over $1,000 in suspension, clearance for 37's, and 45k miles on the stock tie rod. Every Bronco I've seen wheeled on 37's needs a new steering rack and tie rods already.

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Bronco articulation is pathetic, you'd have to put $10k into that suspension to get it to flex like a JL with longer shocks. This isn't even maxed, $279 rocksport shocks, $300 Rubicon express front LCAs, $250 icon front springs, $250 rock krawler rear springs. Just over $1,000 in suspension, clearance for 37's, and 45k miles on the stock tie rod. Every Bronco I've seen wheeled on 37's needs a new steering rack and tie rods already.

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There's just no getting around the fact that long arm ifs is the only way to get enough articulation to not have to fully rely on lockers. And as you said, it'll take far more money to make that happen.

And yeah, I too have noticed that 37's are bending tie rods and even stripping the internals of the rack and pinion.

Another commonly mentioned thing is that once a Bronco sees more than 33's, the margin of improved on road handling over sfa drastically drops. Tommy from tfl is one of the many who've made that observation.
 

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I saw an RTI ramp comparison and IIRC the JLUR had more articulation without the sway bar disconnected than the 4 door Bronco had with its sway bar disconnected. If there was any question, it was answered right then and there.

That said, the Bronco is the class of the field among IFS 4x4's. It was a good move to put a disco on it.
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Did anyone mention the Bronco is ugly? But I will admit it is growing on me a bit. I remember when Ford came out with the F250 Super Duty in the 90s, I thought it was the ugliest truck to be made but couple years and was good looking truck.

Just saying.
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