JD Powers Survey

[John Benoit]

After 23 pages of insightful discussion, sharing of knowledge and playful bantering, I am thoroughly convinced that our little Jeep forum has convinced OP (Mssr Benoit) to petition JD Powers for an opportunity to retract his original response so he can proclaim he was mistaken the whole time, set the the record straight and officially declare that JEEP DOES CARE.

Not hardly. Jeep doesn’t care. Why won’t they correct the suspension or transfer case vent.

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[gek]

It has stock Rubicon springs on it. It has 68540191AB on the front and 68540224AA on the rear. The 1 1/2 inch lift springs are front 68254661AD and or 68253662AD, the rear, 68253591AA and or 68253592AA.

You will notice that all of these springs list other vehicles that are not Rubicons furthering my point that spring selection is based on the options and model and not just the model.

You will notice that 2 door is even listed furthering my point as there is no 2 door XR option.

Spring 1 68254661AD did not show any results so I am showing 68253661AD
https://parts.moparonlineparts.com/search?search_str=68254661AD
https://parts.moparonlineparts.com/oem-parts/mopar-front-coil-spring-68253661ad

Spring 2 68253662AD https://parts.moparonlineparts.com/oem-parts/mopar-front-coil-spring-68253662ad

Spring 3 68253591AA https://parts.moparonlineparts.com/oem-parts/mopar-rear-coil-spring-68253591aa

Spring 4 68253592AA https://parts.moparonlineparts.com/oem-parts/mopar-rear-coil-spring-68253592aa

As you can clearly see in the boxes There are multiple models listed per spring, proving that I was correct in saying that springs can be for multiple models.

If you really want to check your spring #s create an im with Benny @AllMoparParts.com and send him your vin and ask him to look up the springs that go with your Jeep.

Also I would recommend allmoparparts.com over moparpartsonline It took them 8 months to get me something allmoparparts took 3 months to send and I ordered it 4 months after I ordered from moparonlineparts

I am trying to help, but you are not making it easy. Use this post as an example of how to prove your claims in the future.

 

[yokramer]

To ensure fair and equitable further fun

 

[yokramer]

You will notice that all of these springs list other vehicles that are not Rubicons furthering my point that spring selection is based on the options and model and not just the model.

You will notice that 2 door is even listed furthering my point even further as there is no 2 door XR option.

Spring 1 68254661AD did not show any results so I am showing 68253661AD
hhttps://parts.moparonlineparts.com/search?search_str=68254661AD
https://parts.moparonlineparts.com/oem-parts/mopar-front-coil-spring-68253661ad

Spring 2 68253662AD https://parts.moparonlineparts.com/oem-parts/mopar-front-coil-spring-68253662ad

Spring 3 68253591AA https://parts.moparonlineparts.com/oem-parts/mopar-rear-coil-spring-68253591aa

Spring 4 68253592AA https://parts.moparonlineparts.com/oem-parts/mopar-rear-coil-spring-68253592aa

As you can clearly see in the boxes There are multiple models listed per spring, proving that I was correct in saying that springs can be for multiple models.

If you really want to check your spring #s create an im with Benny @AllMoparParts.com and send him your vin and ask him to look up the springs that go with your Jeep.

Also I would recommend allmoparparts.com over moparpartsonline It took them 8 months to get me something allmoparparts took 3 months to send and I ordered it 4 months after I ordered from moparonlineparts

I am trying to help, but you are not making it easy. Use this post as an example of how to prove your claims in the future.

This will not sway his opinion 1 bit. Him thinking an internet parts catalog is going to be anywhere near right on things like this proves he doesnt know how any of it works just wants to be mad.

 

[John Benoit]

You will notice that all of these springs list other vehicles that are not Rubicons furthering my point that spring selection is based on the options and model and not just the model.

You will notice that 2 door is even listed furthering my point even further as there is no 2 door XR option.

Spring 1 68254661AD did not show any results so I am showing 68253661AD
hhttps://parts.moparonlineparts.com/search?search_str=68254661AD
https://parts.moparonlineparts.com/oem-parts/mopar-front-coil-spring-68253661ad

Spring 2 68253662AD https://parts.moparonlineparts.com/oem-parts/mopar-front-coil-spring-68253662ad

Spring 3 68253591AA https://parts.moparonlineparts.com/oem-parts/mopar-rear-coil-spring-68253591aa

Spring 4 68253592AA https://parts.moparonlineparts.com/oem-parts/mopar-rear-coil-spring-68253592aa

As you can clearly see in the boxes There are multiple models listed per spring, proving that I was correct in saying that springs can be for multiple models.

If you really want to check your spring #s create an im with Benny @AllMoparParts.com and send him your vin and ask him to look up the springs that go with your Jeep.

Also I would recommend allmoparparts.com over moparpartsonline It took them 8 months to get me something allmoparparts took 3 months to send and I ordered it 4 months after I ordered from moparonlineparts

I am trying to help, but you are not making it easy. Use this post as an example of how to prove your claims in the future.

You didn’t post the springs that are actually on my Jeep. Come on, be fair

 

[yokramer]

You didn’t post the springs that are actually on my Jeep. Come on, be fair

 

[gek]

You didn’t post the springs that are actually on my Jeep. Come on, be fair

I am going to leave that to you. I merely posted how your proposed springs do not prove that they are 1 1/2" higher. And prove that my point that just because springs are on a certain Jeep does not mean that they don't work on another.

I did look at yours, and I did not see proof that they are the the wrong ones, but you can make that argument in your next post showing them, as I may have missed something.

 

[SaintNick]

If anyone else has a bump stop 1 inch away from the front axle, got screwed the same way I did. They need to check the part number on their springs. Here your proof

My High Tide has about 3 fingers space, but there are no tags on the springs so I can't confirm.

 

[J.Ferreira]

Fording?

Bronco-ing?

 

[John Benoit]

I am going to leave that to you. I merely posted how your proposed springs do not prove that they are 1 1/2" higher. And prove that my point that just because springs are on a certain Jeep does not mean that they don't work on another.

I did look at yours, and I did not see proof that they are the the wrong ones, but you can make that argument in your next post showing them, as I may have missed something.

More deflection. More bs. Do you guys live on a farm? It sure smells like it.

 

[2nd 392]

Are you seriously going to continue to say completely fallacious crap like this, even after being shown irrefutable evidence to the contrary?

Seriously??

Sooo- I see that you have ignored “pattern confirmed, explanation futile” recommendation from many pages ago yesterday and are continuing your attempts of persuading delusions with reality……….. Uh Oh—

Too now

 

[John Benoit]

My High Tide has about 3 fingers space, but there are no tags on the springs so I can't confirm.

Look at the top of the spring there should be a paper tag. It is hard to see and difficult to photograph.

 

[gek]

More deflection. More bs. Do you guys live on a farm? It sure smells like it.

There is no deflection or BS, merely my not doing your work for you. If you are too lazy to make your own arguments then there is no helping you. You must've never been on a farm because you seem to be scared of putting forth some effort and doing some of your own work.

You want to prove your springs are wrong then f'n prove it. It is not on me to disprove your accusations it is on you to prove it and if I disagree then it is on me to disprove you.

 

[OrneryBear]

OP people are actually trying to help you, but your inability to accept a possible reality where you are totally wrong and lashing out at others in response to their attempts at helping you, might indicate you have a narcissistic personality disorder and my friendly advice is to seek professional help.

https://psychcentral.com/disorders/narcissistic-personality-disorder

"This is why they might feel attacked when you contradict them or tell them they’ve done something wrong. This just doesn’t align with their inflated sense of self.

This is part of the complexity of narcissistic personality disorder.

The tendency to have low introspection combined with an exaggerated sense of superiority may leave them unable to see the situation in a way that doesn’t fit their worldview.

As a result, they may “play the victim role” in some scenarios."

 

[gek]

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