You do make a good point. But you always have to feel bad for those guys because the mall crawler stage only lasts so long, and then theyre sitting there wishing they didnt put 22x12s on their budget lifted rig because theyre curious as hell to try it off road but by then its too late.
Sounds like it won't be available until the 2023 model year?
Right. Which should come out in fall of 2022.
My wife was originally interested in a 2 door Badlands. We didn't sweat the $100 reservation cost, but it did seem chinsy of Ford, wanting to raise capital long before starting production. But whatever. Than the hype started getting replaced with an ever increasing amount of gloomy reality. Several months after the $100, the local dealer contacted her for build details. After well over an hour on the phone, wading through all the options and how each one affects the next, she finally got her build sorted. Here's where the rub showed its ugly face. They wouldn't submit her build sheet without a $5000 deposit. Fortunately, she left them hanging on it to 1st get my opinion. A week or so later, I read of the 1st of what's now a handful of delays. $5100 out of pocket, and more than likely not see it for a couple of years? Feel free to blow my dog, Ford!
watch Doug Demuros video he mentioned the flaw they have.
Great point!!!
A dealer had to be chosen to complete the reservation. She chose a local one for the sake of getting it done. She said that she could swap dealers at any time, so that's when I 1st found the 6g forum and located 2 dealers that were promising good deals. One was for $2k below msrp and the other was right at invoice. This was before pricing was released. Both dealers were upwards of a 20 hour drive west.
That dealer or Ford is full of it. A $5K deposit to submit her build? What is the dealer afraid of? Ordering a Bronco that is supposedly very high demand and no one else would take it off their hands if your wife did not? The dealer doesn't sound too confident.
Someone posted this video in another thread. I thought he said the Bronco had more ground clearance with 11.6" compared to the 4Runner's 9. 2" or something. As much as read about the Bronco over the past year, that 11.6" sounds correct, and it's only achieved with the Sasquatch package.
BLD = Brake Lock Differential
Who knows what the thought process was? It's not like she wanted it painted pink with yellow polka-dots and perrywinkle blue seats.That dealer or Ford is full of it. A $5K deposit to submit her build? What is the dealer afraid of? Ordering a Bronco that is supposedly very high demand and no one else would take it off their hands if your wife did not? The dealer doesn't sound too confident.
I'm not sure I heard anywhere in the video or saw anything that equaled "Toyota Crawl Control electronic aids are clearly superior to Bronco's"....? This particular video has been my favorite comparison where its just 2 guys enjoying the vehicles for what they are without needlessly bashing either. I thought it mainly showed that they are both capable in their own right and again...you can not take the top/doors off the 4Runner while the Bronco seems to be just as good both on AND off road. I'd still have a 4Runner if a convertible option was available as it may be dated in most ways (engine/transmission/interior/styling) but is IMO the most proven reliable machine out of the three as a daily driver.
