I don't get the Sahara

[ThirtyOne]

Ok Ken

So i guess we aren’t going to have a conversation. That’s fine.

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[aldo98229]

I'll agree with that. I believe all the variation of packages with overlapping features is all a marketing ploy. "what can we do to get more people in the doors to buy our vehicles?"

Personally, I think it is nothing more than plain ole incompetence.

Automakers spend millions of dollars every year conducting consumer research to package options in ways that (1) optimize manufacturing and production, (2) maximize marketing, branding and corporate profits, (3) maximize the value they provide to the consumer, and (4) facilitate the buying process.

When I look at the current JL lineup, I see FCA tossing the noodles onto the wall to see what sticks, and passing the burden to consumers of figuring out what to buy by leaving it to us to navigate the chaos of options, editions, motors and other possible permutations.

 

[HardSell]

Im not a rock crawler and love the trails that don't require me destroying my Jeep. The Selec-Trac was great in Colorado on the Alipne Loop. Though I still don't understand how to use the hill descent control.

 

[Neanderthalman]

So i guess we aren’t going to have a conversation. That’s fine.

Some people just enjoy being offended. Some so much they have to fabricate an offence to complain about. Just check any of the threads about ‘mall crawlers’ to find more.

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[aldo98229]

Buying a Toyota Tacoma was an eye opener for me.

All I had to pick was:

1. Cab - Extended or crew
2. Bed - 5 or 6 ft long
3. Transmission - manual or auto
4. Trim: base, SR5, Sport, TRD Off-Road, Limited or TRD Pro - I picked TRD Off-Road, which included a rear locker, Bilstein shocks with 1” extra in ride height, electronic crawl control, 16” wheels and AT tires
5. Exterior color
6. Options package - in my case, there were only 2
   • Technology Package, which added backup sensors, blind spot monitor, wireless charging, forward collision, adaptive cruise control and HIDs
   • Premium Package, which added heated leather seats, power sunroof, dual climate control, power rear slider, top-of-the-line audio with navigation

And that was it. Anything else I could buy afterwards and slap it on myself.

This simplification also made it locating a truck with the exact equipment I wanted easy to find.

I have come across many JL owners who wished they had gotten proximity door locks, or LEDs, or backup sensors, or Cold Weather Group, or Selec-Trac, or whatever. But by the time the had narrowed down what they wanted, they went into the dealership, the dealer showed them what they had, that they were so confused that they didn’t realize they were leaving out option(s) they really wanted.

 

[higbyz]

I bought a 2019 Wrangler Sport, but I am now realizing it wasn't a normal Sport. I think it has more than what a basic Sport has. I wanted specific things in my Wrangler and it was difficult to find what I wanted without ordering something special from the factory.

The dealer found one that had close to what I wanted. It was a Sport that was built for some reason that had the following:



Ocean Blue Metallic C/C

Bumper Module I

Wheel Flare/DRL Parts Module

Grille Module

Door Trim Panel Module

Glass Module

Center Console Parts Module

Front Fascias Parts Module

Seat Parts Module

Instrument Panel Parts Module

Door Parts Module

Front End Parts Module

Front Suspension Parts Module

Rear Suspension Parts Module

Tire & Wheel Parts Module

Frame Parts Module

Courtesy Lamps

Front Dome w/On/Off Switch Lamp

Ft Side Marker/Side Repeater Lamp

Front Fog Lamps

Cargo Lamp

CHMSL Lamp

Halogen Headlamps

Command-Trac Part Time 4WD System

Molded Black Front Bumper

Incandescent Taillamps

Body Color Grille

Dana M186 Front Axle

Blow Molded Black Rear Bumper

Build To U.S. Mkt. Specifications

Tire Pressure Monitoring Display

Conventional Differential Frt Axle

Front Floor Mats

GVW Rating - 4900#

Uconnect 3 with 5" Display

Zone 70-Phoenix Arizona

Black Door Handles

17.5 Gallon Fuel Tank

Washington Sold to State Code

120 MPH Primary Speedometer

Black Front Frame Overlay

JL/5403 Vehicle Family

Left Hand Drive (LHD)

Four Wheel Drive (4WD)/(4X4)

Front Seat Back Map Pockets

Driver and Passenger Assist Handles

Illuminated Cupholders

12V Auxiliary Power Outlet

Auxiliary 12-Volt Rear Power Outlet

Locking Glove Box

Two Door

U.S. Dealer Retail

Fixed Long Mast Antenna

Short Wheel Base (SWB)

8 Speakers

Anti-Lock 4-Wheel Disc Brakes

Steering Wheel Mounted Audio Ctrls

Media Hub (USB, Aux)

Audio Jack Input for Mobile Devices

Remote USB Port

Hydraulic Assist Brake Booster

Sport Bar

Full Metal Doors w/Roll-up Windows

Price Class L

Single Top Package

2019 Vehicle Specifications

Outside Temperature Gauge

Front Passenger Seat Belt Alert

Vehicle Information Center

Headlamp Off Time Delay

Speed Control

Cluster 3.5" TFT B&W Display

Base Interior Accents

2 Front & 1 Rear Tow Hooks

Power Steering

Traction Control

Var Intermittent Windshield Wipers

Normal Duty Suspension

Electronic Stability Control

Hill Start Assist

Electronic Roll Mitigation

Trailer Sway Damping

Dual Note Electric Horns

Fuel Filler Bezel - Black

Vehicle Order Tracking

Silver Platinum I/P Bezels

Manual 6-Way Driver Seat

Tinted Windshield Glass

Washington Ship to State Code

Front Door Tinted Glass

Tilt/Telescope Steering Column

Front Seat Area Carpet

Fuel Tank Skid Plate Shield

Transfer Case Skid Plate Shield

Torx Tool Kit

Transmission Skid Plate

R1234YF A/C Refrigerant

Tethered Fuel Filler Cap

Protective Coating and Remover

Frt Pass Seat - Manual Adjust 4-Way

Black Exterior Mirrors

Full Size Spare Tire

Child Seat Upper Tether Anchorage

Supplemental Frt Seat Side Air Bags

Monotone Paint

Low Back Bucket Seats

Easy Access Driver Seat

Easy Access Passenger Seat

Reclining Front Seats

Driver Height Adjuster Seat

Occupant Classification System

Manual 2-Way Driver Lumbar Adjust

Matching Spare Wheel

Rear Folding Seat

RR Head Restraints Outboard Seating

Advanced Multistage Front Air Bags

Front Stabilizer Bar

Rear Stabilizer Bar

Rear Seat/Wheelhouse/Cargo Carpet

Cargo Tie Down Loops

Rear Compartment Storage Tray

Trail Rated Badge

Accent Color Fender Flares

Jeep Badge

Wrangler Sport Decal

Full Length Floor Console

ParkView Rear Back-up Camera

Outside Tire Carrier

3.45 Overall Top Gear Ratio

Storage Tray

Dana M220 Rear Axle

Sentry Key Theft Deterrent System

Pushbutton Start

Jeep Wave Owner Care (N/A Fleet)

Urethane Shift Knob

Rear View Day/Night Mirror

U.S. Specifications Label

English/USA Language

Hood Insulation


I don't know how different my Sport is from a regular Sport. But I do love it!

Thanks ! I was really curious about your Sport !

 

[Voodoobones]

Thanks ! I was really curious about your Sport !

Well, ever since the wave, I knew you were wondering.

 

[danzy55]

YJ Islander beautiful!!!

that blue and the teal color they had on them rocks!

 

[saunderscc]

New to this forum and am looking at buying a Jeep within the next month. This post caught my eye, because I have been researching the different trims. My main thing that I would like, and what I feel separates the Sahara and Rubicon from the Sport and Sport S is the USB ports that are on the back of the console for the rear passenger. Going on road trips with kids, this is a must. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the only trims that have that are the Sahara and Rubicon.
Do the Sport S trims have this as an option and what option would that be? Thanks for the help!

 

[Black Jeep Convertible]

I wish my sport had full time 4WD for nyc winters because the roads here are patches of snow/ice then asphalt all at the same time, so it’s either you better make sure you’re going straight in 4WD or take it real easy around snow and ice in 2WD

 

[rickinAZ]

New to this forum and am looking at buying a Jeep within the next month. This post caught my eye, because I have been researching the different trims. My main thing that I would like, and what I feel separates the Sahara and Rubicon from the Sport and Sport S is the USB ports that are on the back of the console for the rear passenger. Going on road trips with kids, this is a must. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the only trims that have that are the Sahara and Rubicon.
Do the Sport S trims have this as an option and what option would that be? Thanks for the help!

Keep in mind that it'll be easy to add USB ports (think stereo shop). Buy what you'd like without considering that feature.

 

[aldo98229]

New to this forum and am looking at buying a Jeep within the next month. This post caught my eye, because I have been researching the different trims. My main thing that I would like, and what I feel separates the Sahara and Rubicon from the Sport and Sport S is the USB ports that are on the back of the console for the rear passenger. Going on road trips with kids, this is a must. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the only trims that have that are the Sahara and Rubicon.
Do the Sport S trims have this as an option and what option would that be? Thanks for the help!

Welcome to the forum!

 

[multicam]

Oh my god... so much whining in this thread! Those of you complaining about option overdose- you’re all wrong, but it’s okay.

1. FCA is doing just fine offering all these packages, options, etc. They’re enjoying both higher sales numbers and higher ATPs on the Wrangler (adjusted for inflation) than in the YJ/TJ days.
2. You’re advocating the consumer having FEWER choices? You think that’s a good thing? That benefits no one except FCA. I’m excited that we can get options á la carte. If we couldn't everyone would be on here complaining that they can’t get the LED headlights without body-colored fenders or whatever.
3. The people that you’re describing who would be overwhelmed by option overload are the people who just go to the lot and buy whatever’s available. FCA (and dealers) love these people. They’re also the type to pay $5000 for dealer-installed extras.

 

[Dkretden]

New to this forum and am looking at buying a Jeep within the next month. This post caught my eye, because I have been researching the different trims. My main thing that I would like, and what I feel separates the Sahara and Rubicon from the Sport and Sport S is the USB ports that are on the back of the console for the rear passenger. Going on road trips with kids, this is a must. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the only trims that have that are the Sahara and Rubicon.
Do the Sport S trims have this as an option and what option would that be? Thanks for the help!

A Rubicon is separated from a Sport by a USB port?

does my Rubicon even have a USB port in the back? I hope so or otherwise, I have a Sport.

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