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I'm not a fan of climbing or descending rocks and 40º slopes with an extra 800 lbs under a back seat and a 4 banger overheating, long after a battery and two useless electric motors have quit.

I'm amused by the number of Toyota ads popping up in the right hand column...slowing things down. No Bronco ads yet:CWL:

"at least passable all the way to French Creek." I always believed Holy Cross began at French Creek. Just a 3.5 until crossing and beyond.

Impressive mileage. Should be expected. I was also impressed with the 2.0, but wanted a standard. The 3.6 and standard JLR were never available to test drive when I was in the market. Moving over to the 4xe Forum, they are getting nowhere near your mileage when the 2.0 has to kick in. One said...

Those loaning money which cannot be repaid. Today's economy is driven by a financial sector backed by a Fed behaving exactly like a type 1 supernova (Type I supernova: star accumulates matter from a nearby neighbor until a runaway nuclear reaction ignites.) ka BOOM! Who is truly ignorant...

Sad to see the ignorance in people who don’t understand the impotence of the electric future. Typo corrected.

OK boys, it's been 189 years! What Star date was that? I certainly believe the 4xe is more realistic to wheel than a totally EV Wrangler. Unfortunately, a 17Kwh battery is a throw back to the historically anemic powered Jeeps we've suffered with since WWII despite the 2.0L and 8sp being a...

https://www.thedrive.com/news/39794/rv-driver-annihilates-their-new-jeep-wrangler-by-flat-towing-it-in-4-low https://jalopnik.com/jeep-wrangler-engine-explodes-after-owner-tows-vehicle-1846493328 "For the record", you gotta be kidding! At my age especially after eating an enchilada, I always...

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Smaller the tires bigger the thrill.

You need to find terrain where farting is only the beginning of something much more snifficant.

The subject content pointed to the trend of conflicting, misleading EV performance data as advertised over the years. Defending your purchase decision by denying that electric only range should be a relevant factor when purchasing a PHEV is a non sequitur.

Here are some very useful Badges: For the colorblind, and to comply with the ADA: For those needing driving instructions: Theft advice, Steal me first:

First they said: Then they said: 25 miles. Now they say: Thoughts? In my world this is not a favorable trend.

Wider and heavier didn't help here. Ever since Jeep stopped including the driving instructions printed on lower right dash, roll overs have increased dramatically.

I also had a '65 'stang, but I adapted the ring to eject the passenger Bond style.;)

A young, outdoor, adventuresome family needs a four door wrangler hands down. No replacement for pics of thrilled kids, enjoying everything offered by access to and over-nighting in challenging, remote and stunningly beautiful terrain. Those kids come home to tell their less fortunate...

In my world, a Jeep sitting in a garage or on level ground is worse than either my wife's white pants or the bridge. Show us some stuff!

Found a bridge for you to cross.

I appreciate your efforts to justify economic value of the contemporary product line of Wranglers, but lets look at some holes in your defense for supporting something which so obviously and painfully falls short of reasonably expected potential in defiance of 50 years development. Firstly: The...