Help the Noob, please.

[Notorious]

I love posting my jeep porn... hell yeah... the ride

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[JohnT]

Save your $10k. Wheel your Jeep in Its stock form to gauge its and your capabilities. Then look into mods that will help you get the most out of your rig, i.e. lift, larger tires, wheels etc. Probably one of the best ways to keep you from buying a bunch of non essential mods. But hey, that’s just my take. In the end it’s your money, rig and your preference.

agree. Give it a year or so. Maybe buy a ball cap, t-shirt or something first.

 

[Notorious]

Save your $10k

Couldn’t have said it better.

 

[limeade]

Yes, 37” tires look great, but they come with all sorts of side effects.

You will need to significantly beef up your steering and suspension components, replace the driveshafts, regear, etc. You will also lose one or two of the top gears on the automatic transmission. Your MPG, ride and handling will go to shit. And don’t expect to get much money for any of it when you sell the Jeep.

Your buddies will give you the thumbs up. But your girlfriend and your dog will refuse to climb into the Jeep. You will need to get a new bird and a rescue dog...or take the cat.

I'll agree with SOME of this.....maybe.......but a properly setup suspension and steering with 37's WILL NOT make your ride and handling go to shit.

When I decided to finally mod my 2018 JLUR, I knew I was going with 37's. So I ensured I installed the proper steering upgrades in conjunction with the suspension. IMHO, if you're wanting to wheel with 37's, a stronger tie rod, drag link, and steering box brace is very important. My steering and handling is very good and I can cruise at 90+ mph through the mountains comfortably. The new steering box TSB made it slightly better, but it was great even with the older aluminum steering box.

Plan on changing out the stock ball joints within 20k miles too, the stockers won't last long.

My built 2018 on 37's with the 2.0, auto transmission, and stock gears gets 15.5 mpg. My stock 2019 with the same drivetrain gets 21 mpg. So yeah, your MPG's will suffer. But for a Jeep on 37's, I am not at all displeased. Heck, my 2004 TJ Rubicon on 35's would only get 12-13 mpg.

@JeepScrub , if you want 37's build your rig with quality parts and do it right the first time. I'd focus your FIRST $10k on a quality suspension, steering upgrades, chromoly or RCV axle shafts, 1350 front drive shaft (rear isn't as important to replace right away), wheels/tires, and any armor you think you'd need (FAD skid probably at a minimum).

Don't let others tell you that your Jeep will be a steaming pile of poo because you didn't keep it stock.

Welcome to the club!

 

[Obi.Wan.Shawnobi]

Don't forget driveshafts. Eventually, the OEM ones will get sloppy pushing all that hardware around.

Lol, i know right = Land yacht.

 

[RagTopDeluxe]

and . . . . I'm getting ready to drop 150.00 on lug nuts because they look better!!!

G.

I can’t laugh...I already did that

 

[Zandcwhite]

Excellent feedback! Thank you!

Alright, you've talked me into a winch also. I know it's probably silly but I just can't make myself like the Rubicons on 35's. Personal preference is all but It looks much meaner on 37's. On TrailHero, I paid pretty close attention and the people on 35's had a significantly harder time on some of the 8-9 trails than the people on 37's and 40's it seemed. I'll never be going over the crazy scary stuff like "you gotta be nuts" but I don't plan on taking many if any bypasses if I can help it. ?

Don't believe the hype, if you can't build a JL Rubicon to tackle some of the toughest trails in America for under $10k you need more seat time not more money. We are under $5k into ours, including the $2300 in tires. We've done everything from Holcomb creek to poison spider, golden spike, gold bar rim, to the dusy erishim trail without bypasses. 37's on stock rims, 2.5" lift, and some wheel spacers. It goes anywhere I point it.

 

[Zandcwhite]

Yes, 37” tires look great, but they come with all sorts of side effects.

You will need to significantly beef up your steering and suspension components, replace the driveshafts, regear, etc. You will also lose one or two of the top gears on the automatic transmission. Your MPG, ride and handling will go to shit. And don’t expect to get much money for any of it when you sell the Jeep.

Your buddies will give you the thumbs up. But your girlfriend and your dog will refuse to climb into the Jeep. You will need to get a new bird and a rescue dog...or take the cat.

The wife daily drives her jlur on 37's, 2.5" spacer lift, front adjustable lca's and new shocks. Rides great, handles corners coming back from moab on I-70 at 80mph+ after wheeling all week, stock steering, stock driveshafts, the dog jumps in no problem, still uses 8th gear on stock gears, need I go on? Real world experience over internet bs. Maybe you need a bigger dog and a lighter purse so the 37's aren't too much for you?

 

[Roky]

Some of you guys are missing the point here , lol. @JeepScrub said he dumped 80k into his Camero , so he’s doing this, there’s no waiting, driving it stock, or any of that . So as good jeepers there’s only one thing we can do, and that’s help him spend his money . Now ..... let’s talk rims and tires...............?

 

[aldo98229]

The wife daily drives her jlur on 37's, 2.5" spacer lift, front adjustable lca's and new shocks. Rides great, handles corners coming back from moab on I-70 at 80mph+ after wheeling all week, stock steering, stock driveshafts, the dog jumps in no problem, still uses 8th gear on stock gears, need I go on? Real world experience over internet bs. Maybe you need a bigger dog and a lighter purse so the 37's aren't too much for you?

Riiiight...

 

[JeepScrub]

agree. Give it a year or so. Maybe buy a ball cap, t-shirt or something first.

Eat a dick. That’s what I’ll put on the T shirt

I'll agree with SOME of this.....maybe.......but a properly setup suspension and steering with 37's WILL NOT make your ride and handling go to shit.

When I decided to finally mod my 2018 JLUR, I knew I was going with 37's. So I ensured I installed the proper steering upgrades in conjunction with the suspension. IMHO, if you're wanting to wheel with 37's, a stronger tie rod, drag link, and steering box brace is very important. My steering and handling is very good and I can cruise at 90+ mph through the mountains comfortably. The new steering box TSB made it slightly better, but it was great even with the older aluminum steering box.

Plan on changing out the stock ball joints within 20k miles too, the stockers won't last long.

My built 2018 on 37's with the 2.0, auto transmission, and stock gears gets 15.5 mpg. My stock 2019 with the same drivetrain gets 21 mpg. So yeah, your MPG's will suffer. But for a Jeep on 37's, I am not at all displeased. Heck, my 2004 TJ Rubicon on 35's would only get 12-13 mpg.

@JeepScrub , if you want 37's build your rig with quality parts and do it right the first time. I'd focus your FIRST $10k on a quality suspension, steering upgrades, chromoly or RCV axle shafts, 1350 front drive shaft (rear isn't as important to replace right away), wheels/tires, and any armor you think you'd need (FAD skid probably at a minimum).

Don't let others tell you that your Jeep will be a steaming pile of poo because you didn't keep it stock.

Welcome to the club!

I appreciate the time you took. Thank you! I agree with all points you make. I’m not saying I do it ? But you could not be more correct I’m sure. Thank you again.

 

[JeepScrub]

The trailer tow group comes with HD electrical and the 4 auxiliary switches. Get the cold weather group, too. Have fun!

Yes I like that group for sure. When I spec it out the way I like it’s over 61 with cloth seats ?

 

[JeepScrub]

The stock Rubicon 285/70R17 KO2s weigh 50 lbs each. A similar tire in 37x12.5 weighs 71 lbs each. That’s 21 x 5 = 105 lbs more weight just in tires. If you go with MTs you are looking at even more weight.

That’s before you add a lift, beef up the steering, get longer arms and driveshafts, steel bumpers, swing spare carrier and a winch.

You will end up with a 6,000-lb beast running on 37” tires... powered by a 2-liter Fiat engine.

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[JeepScrub]

Some of you guys are missing the point here , lol. @JeepScrub said he dumped 80k into his Camero , so he’s doing this, there’s no waiting, driving it stock, or any of that . So as good jeepers there’s only one thing we can do, and that’s help him spend his money . Now ..... let’s talk rims and tires...............?

Someone read the whole post. Holy crap. Thank you so much.

 

[JeepScrub]

In my opinion some of the worst things folks do is over do. Many people have suggested to you to start out testing the rigs abilities then slowly made mods to fit it's needs for your type of driving. There are so many treads on this forum where people have screwed the geometry of there vehicles up to the point that they chase their tail trying to right the wrong. You have a Rubicon, no need to change everything at first light. Take your time and do what you want done correctly.

Thank you.

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