Death wobble is not just your standard thing that happens with ALL solid axle vehicles. There should not be any death wobble or any wobble if the vehicle is properly spec'ed, tolerances on parts, design, etc. The vehicles in question are experience wobble because of a manufacturing defect. Mine doesn't even get to the point of death wobble, the tire just flaps side to side for about a .5-1 secs. But it is enough to feel like the vehicle could lose control. My visits to the dealer and working with FCA has replaced the steering damper with "improved" parts to accommodate, and it has had some effect on damping the system, but it is not completely gone. If I hit the right bump/dip in the right conditions it still occurs. My case manager has even stated that should not happen on a new vehicle.First off, isn't it common knowledge to do research before buying a vehicle, used or BRAND NEW?
Second off, this is not a brand new issue, nor is it an issue at all, it is a common occurrence and there is no serious danger from it. It is very well documented and you would've known if you had the common knowledge to do your research.
Third, Death Wobble has been around longer than Jeep has, it happens with ALL solid axel vehicles that are not setup with steering stabilizers, not just "new" Jeep Wranglers.
Fourth, Jeep doesn't have to specifically say that Death Wobble is a possibility, because it's been around for so long that if you don't know about it, then it's your own fault for not doing your research before buying the vehicle. You don't see or hear about motorcycle owners sueing their companies over tank slappers, witch is death Wobble on a motorcycle. The reason why is because everyone who owns a motorcycle did their research before buying it and know that it can happen, not because the dealership told them. Harley definitely didn't warn me about tank slappers.
Curious which dealer you go to in GA. Palmer Jeep in Roswell treated me great!!Thanks to this forum and threads like this I’ve educated myself and I’m blessed to have the financial means to have the issue addressed/fixed on my own dime. My dealership is crap and are extremely deceitful. Therefore, I’ve had a local shop order my parts and will have them installed as you mentioned above.
Yes, I will loose my warranty for the Jeep installed Mopar lift kit. But honestly, according to my dealership, that warranty is only good at the dealership that installed the lift. Go figure, I paid for a Mopar lift kit and it was installed improperly at a dealership while out of my local area. Well guess what the dealership said, we didn’t install it at “our dealership” so the fact that the other Jeep dealership used your factory isolator pads instead of the ones provided in the kit makes it an improper install.
Get this, the kicker is the service advisor lied and told me that the isolator pads “were missing”! Mind you, this dealership didn’t install the lift. I drove to the dealership and checked the isolator pads myself and sure enough, the isolator pads were present! They were the factory installed pads yet they were present. There’s a big difference between “missing isolator pads” and the incorrect part number installed! Rant over!
Back to the issue; It’s a shame for FCA to turn a blind eye when they have line of sight and a presence on this forum that recognizes there is an issue. FCA should address the issue and if necessary place a “stop to fix” on production to address the issue.
I’m New to the Jeep family and honestly even with the wandering after 45 -55 mph on my 3 week old JL; I enjoy owning my Jeep. This is why I chose an attempt to fix the issue with OEM parts. The warranty appears to be crap anyway.
It would be a lot better if FCA stepped up to the plate and fixed the issue before continuing to sell a product with known issues. SMH
It's not my job to prove that there isn't a widespread problem.It is impossible for me to determine if it is a “wide spread” problem or not as I have no statistics on how many people (on a percentage basis) with a problem actually log onto the Gov website and log a problem. Do you have that percentage?
Some lawyers will get rich and we'll all get a coupon for $50 off our next Jeep*
Red Bull never gave me wings, but all the Class Action did was get me 2 free cans of nuclear horse piss.
*expires in 90 days.
I have owned a YJ and a TJ both bought new. I ran a 4 inch lift on both with 33 inch tires and only had death wobble on the TJ one time at 120,000 miles. I barely managed to get to 1000 miles on a stock 2018 JL before having death wobble, steering auto correcting hard left, radio not working properly, side panels on hard top falling off, track bar recall, and Chrysler doing everything they can to not fix the vehicle. So yeah I hope they sue Chrysler into bankruptcy. Any company that treats their customers the way I have been treated especially being a 3 time customer deserves everything coming to them.This! Exactly this. The main reason Jeep should have left the Wrangler a niche vehicle, and not try and mass market them to soccer moms and beta males. The pussification of Jeep will continue.
How can you sit there and say that it is not because of the solid axel when it has been researched for years and people have proven that is the cause, it is impossible to completely get rid of, only mitigate for it. Granted Jeep isn't doing the correct repairs, they should be adding steering stabilizers and not replacing bushings, which also proves you don't know much about the issue or how to fix it(if you think it can be "fixed" you don't know much about solid axels), it isn't their fault that you did not do your research before buying the vehicle. The problem is known and has been well known for a long time. One way manufacturers can mitigate it from factory is making one side of the axels shorter than the other, or just buy simply bolting a shock to the knuckle and diff housing(steering stabilizer)Death wobble is not just your standard thing that happens with ALL solid axle vehicles. There should not be any death wobble or any wobble if the vehicle is properly spec'ed, tolerances on parts, design, etc. The vehicles in question are experience wobble because of a manufacturing defect. Mine doesn't even get to the point of death wobble, the tire just flaps side to side for about a .5-1 secs. But it is enough to feel like the vehicle could lose control. My visits to the dealer and working with FCA has replaced the steering damper with "improved" parts to accommodate, and it has had some effect on damping the system, but it is not completely gone. If I hit the right bump/dip in the right conditions it still occurs. My case manager has even stated that should not happen on a new vehicle.
This happens on older Jeeps once certain parts start to wear, it should not be happening on new parts, but it is.
And 1 person is responsible for McDonald's coffee cups stating: Warning: Hot Coffee Is HOT!Remember, 20 or 30 people are why there's warning stickers in hot tubs and stuff