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[Tr4ckD4ys]

Off topic: You think Wirtz will decide to move to Liverpool??

Unlikely. He’s gonna do the classic German soccer darling career. I see him at Bayern Munich for a few years before heading to Spain.

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[Blueliner3]

I believe it is named "Secret Pass Slot Canyon" in OnX from what I can tell.

“Secret Pass” on TOR? https://www.trailsoffroad.com/US/arizona/scout-routes/373-secret-pass

 

[Bayrat]

Some fire/rescue companies in our area charge back insurance companies if the vehicle/s owners do not reside or otherwise pay taxes within their jurisdiction. This seems like a perfect way to address the stupid. Also, calling in a chopper is generally passed on to the user's insurance. If insurance does not cover it, the lien then transfers to the individual.

 

[roaniecowpony]

Some fire/rescue companies in our area charge back insurance companies if the vehicle/s owners do not reside or otherwise pay taxes within their jurisdiction. This seems like a perfect way to address the stupid. Also, calling in a chopper is generally passed on to the user's insurance. If insurance does not cover it, the lien then transfers to the individual.

I have some strong feelings on this. I use to be an airport bum and would see the county S&R helicopter buzzing around various airports and getting burgers at the on-airport restaurants. In general, just flying for fun. All in the name of "training" I'm sure. So, when someone really needs rescuing they should pay?

 

[Zandcwhite]

I have some strong feelings on this. I use to be an airport bum and would see the county S&R helicopter buzzing around various airports and getting burgers at the on-airport restaurants. In general, just flying for fun. All in the name of "training" I'm sure. So, when someone really needs rescuing they should pay?

Its like every ballot initiative to fix roads or fund schools. We already pay enough taxes to have perfect roads and professors teaching every class. Just because they mismanaged every cent they've ever been given we should give more? And then actually expect them to properly manage the new funds? Every new tax or bond initiative is an automatic no vote from me.

 

[Joe Ba-na-na]

Sorry to offend literally everyone on this forum. I do not like people and I love offroading so when my wife and I go we go ALONE with every piece of self recovery equipment available and have used all of it many times. Never once needed an assist. So when we come across a trail that looks challenging we look at one another and ask ourselves this question. Looks fun. How hard you feel like working? If either of us sighs we suck up the shame of going back on the same trail we just went down, find a good isolated camp site along same said trail we just drove and set up camp and drink and f@$* our shame away under the beautiful star lit sky.

 

[flick2614]

Sorry to offend literally everyone on this forum. I do not like people and I love offroading so when my wife and I go we go ALONE with every piece of self recovery equipment available and have used all of it many times. Never once needed an assist. So when we come across a trail that looks challenging we look at one another and ask ourselves this question. Looks fun. How hard you feel like working? If either of us sighs we suck up the shame of going back on the same trail we just went down, find a good isolated camp site along same said trail we just drove and set up camp and drink and f@$* our shame away under the beautiful star lit sky.

No offense taken here, I can't stand putting up with other people on the trail either. And I love f*ck&ng away shame, I usually send her packing after. If that happens to be in the middle of the trail so be it, the helicopter will pick her up.

 

[Nitehawk92]

Yeah, that doesn't help at all. Just go, skimpy urban clothes and all. Only equipment you need are tunes about major urban cities.

I prefer the classics that imply Jeeps get it done without implying it's safe out there.



For the record, it isn't over the top. I've done exactly that in my YJ during a fresh blizzard. It's unnerving as hell. You know you're moving, can't see shit.

They took the left turn, but not in Albuquerque... Lots of people do really stupid stuff... https://www.nbcnews.com/world/asia/...wice-one-week-returning-lost-phone-rcna203445

 

[_olllllllo_]

Arizona has what is colloquially called the "Stupid Motorist Law", whereby if you drive into a flowing wash after a monsoon and get swept away, you are held financially responsible for the costs of your rescue. We should do the same thing for stupid off-roaders. Arizona is the state that gave a couple an $8.2 million dollar bill for starting a forest fire as a result of a gender reveal party!! The male plead guilty and was a border patrol agent.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-new...-starting-wildfire-fire-gender-reveal-n915441

 

[Terrymo]

Always be yourself. Unless you’re an idiot…then be someone else.

 

[aeonixx1001]

Where exactly is this location “the narrows”? Asking for a friend…

We cant tell you, we'll have to haul your ass out. Ha Ha Ha

 

[roaniecowpony]

Always be yourself. Unless you’re an idiot…then be someone else.

"It's 90% mental. The rest is in your head" Yogi Berra

 

[Bayrat]

I have some strong feelings on this. I use to be an airport bum and would see the county S&R helicopter buzzing around various airports and getting burgers at the on-airport restaurants. In general, just flying for fun. All in the name of "training" I'm sure. So, when someone really needs rescuing they should pay?

IF You don't pay taxes in the jurisdiction is what I stated. I'm anti tax for most everything, including paying for the stupid and lazy.

 

[azjl#3]

Was he trying to find the train station?

 

[SlickRicksWilly]

Sorry to offend literally everyone on this forum. I do not like people and I love offroading so when my wife and I go we go ALONE with every piece of self recovery equipment available and have used all of it many times. Never once needed an assist. So when we come across a trail that looks challenging we look at one another and ask ourselves this question. Looks fun. How hard you feel like working? If either of us sighs we suck up the shame of going back on the same trail we just went down, find a good isolated camp site along same said trail we just drove and set up camp and drink and f@$* our shame away under the beautiful star lit sky.

I think you will find quite a lot of people agree with your sentiment. I just don't say it because I don't feel the need to argue with people who need someone to hold their hand. I enjoy going with friends but enjoy solo trip with the ole ball and chain as well.

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