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  1. side steps

    I went with sometime like this for my 2023. Similar to Mopar side steps, but not as expensive. I noticed that these are out of stock, but I am sure you can find something similar at a good price. Plus I like the wide steps so that people in normal cars cannot ding the paint on my doors...
  2. Not sure what to believe

    When if you try to add the wiring for the hardtop on a Jeep that came from the factory with a soft top, the clockspring (which is under the steering wheel) has to be swapped out. I am not sure if this is true if you do not have the cold weather package, i.e. heated steering wheel and related...
  3. Anyone Know What This Is Mounted to Frame?

    We think gas prices here in the Dayton Ohio area are bad, and currently gas is $3.09 a gallon for 87 octane. But you are in California, gas prices have bad bad there for a long, long time...
  4. 3.6 Trash MPG

    I get pretty good mileage from my 2023 Rubicon 3.6 6-speed manual. I do drive conservatively, accelerate slowly, drive 65 - 70 MPH. I don't drive like a Prius driver though...
  5. Jeep version of lying about your age?

    I must be Americas Jeep...
  6. 19A recall complete

    Sounds to me like you need to find a new dealership to get the work done. It seems that the one you took it to has the 3 Stooges working in their service bay...
  7. Searching for a used JL Rubicon

    I paid $49,822 before rebates and incentives for my then new 2023 Rubicon in December 2022, from a dealer on Ratbert's dealers below invoice list. You should easily be able to get something still under warranty for $50,000...
  8. Public Service Announcement

    Both of these are just another word for WIFE...
  9. 2024 Cold Air Intake

    In 2022 and 2023 there was no reason to order the CAI. I did not order the CAI with my 2022 Sahara or my 2023 Rubicon. This is the way they both came from the factory. All I would need to do is cut out the hood. That should be a lot cheaper then $525...
  10. What did you do TO your Jeep JL today?

    It's cheaper to rent then it is to own...
  11. 2020 Willys Blown Motor

    They cannot force you to use MOPAR parts, you can use aftermarket parts on your Jeep or any vehicle. You should call another dealership, do not drop this and accept that your warranty is voided...
  12. Hard top going through auto wash

    Taking a soft top Jeep through an automatic car wash could be an issue, but not a hard top. It isn't the soft top, but the soft top windows that can be negatively affected by the auto car wash. I have never known anybody that routinely goes through the auto car wash with a soft top. It would...
  13. Katzkin problems - Updated with photos!

    Anybody can make mistakes, it is really important how the company deals with issues and the support they provide after the fact. If they provided the name of an approved installer, then they should with that installer to get the issue resolved, or back up their service with a new installer...
  14. What did you do TO your Jeep JL today?

    This is why the Postal Service loses so much money. I ordered a package that shipped from Indianapolis In. 100 miles from my house in the Dayton Ohio area. It shipped to Cincinnati, then to Columbus, then to Bowling Green Oh, near Toledo). Then it shipped to Pittsburgh Pa, then back to...
  15. Official: Jeep Announces 2024 Wrangler Rubicon 392 Final Edition -- Goodbye to the Grrr-Eight One

    And I would bet that if this is the last hurrah for the 392, that dealer markups on these vehicles could get really ridiculous...
  16. Twinkle Toes I'm Not

    I have driven sticks shift vehicles all my life. I did not have any issues going from my 5-speed manual 2001 TJ to my 2020 Sport and then 2023 Rubicon. I have no complaints at all about the functioning of the JL clutch. Some of the JLs have hill start assist and I think the default is for it...
  17. Dishonest Dealership

    OK if you can somehow generate a "Karen" attitude, here is what you do. Go into the dealership on a Saturday afternoon. Inquire about your refund and if they do not give it to you, go out into the showroom area and start very loudly voicing your displeasure with the fact that the dealership...
  18. Dealership fee norms? Florida? Shenanigans?

    When I bought my 2023 Rubicon from a dealer on Ratberts list of dealers below invoice, I made it abundantly clear to the salesman that I did not want, and would not pay for any dealer add-ons. No nitrogen, no paint protection, add on crap. Just my Jeep from the factory. I kept all the emails...
  19. 2024 Order Waiting Room

    No it was delivered 53.7 years ago...
  20. Weight capacity of factory spare tire carrier?

    Since the tire and wheel are seperated, the extra weight is probably the air that is not in the tire. ;)


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