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No, not at all. Water creates a shock hazard because it is so non conductive that your body is a better source of conductivity for electricity to go to ground therefore shocking you
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No, not at all. Water creates a shock hazard because it is so non conductive that your body is a better source of conductivity for electricity to go to ground therefore shocking you
I know that pure water is not conductive, but as you know, you will almost never find pure water anywhere... electrolytes(salt, minerals, impurities) in water is what makes water conductive.
 

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And dc current is not dangerous like ac. You can touch both positive and negative on the battery and not get shocked
 

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Not a conductor of electricity.
No, PURE water is not a good conductor at all, though the conductivity is not zero. According to the LennTech webpage Water Conductivity: Pure water is not a good conductor of electricity. Ordinary distilled water in equilibrium with carbon dioxide of the air has a conductivity of about 10Ɨ10āˆ’6 Wāˆ’1māˆ’1. It is the impurities in plain water that conduct electricity. I doubt very much that the water you are using to spray off your Jeep is PURE water. Most water we use is full of minerals and other impurities.
 

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So, what's the consensus here? Spray or Nay?
Cover the up intake, battery and fuse box with plastic bag, and spray away?
 

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So fill a plastic bowl up with tap water and try to complete a dc electrical circuit and let ne know what happens . Hint, nothing
 

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So, what's the consensus here? Spray or Nay?
Cover the up intake, battery and fuse box with plastic bag, and spray away?

Spray away
 

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Regular tap water being sprayed on a battery is DEFINITELY capable of conducting between the poles. However, the low voltage of the battery will cause nothing to happen, just as if you touched the +&- poles yourself. a 48v battery may have different results, I'm not sure how far apart the poles are.
 

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And dc current is not dangerous like ac. You can touch both positive and negative on the battery and not get shocked
Not exactly true, low voltage in a 12V DC application is less likely to overcome your internal resistance. However modern automakers are moving to higher DC voltages where there could be more of a danger. Voltage level is the danger not wether itā€™s AC or DC.
 
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Not exactly true, low voltage in a 12V DC application is less likely to overcome your internal resistance. However modern automakers are moving to higher DC voltages where there could be more of a danger. Voltage level is the danger not wether itā€™s AC or DC.
Agreed but a car operates on 12v
 

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So, what's the consensus here? Spray or Nay?
Cover the up intake, battery and fuse box with plastic bag, and spray away?
I say spray away with the caveats mentioned above.

I did a washdown of my engine last night without issue. It's difficult to get to the engine cooling fans (at least from up top) so I don't know if they may still have mud on them (if they ever did). I "think" the engine fan (or fans... anyone know if there's 1 or 2 fans for engine cooling?) is running smoother but not hot enough to spool up to full speed this morning.

I haven't tried accessing the fan from underneath yet so that may be easier. Anyone have any suggestions on how to get to the cooling fan (2.0T motor)?
 

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So, what's the consensus here? Spray or Nay?
Cover the up intake, battery and fuse box with plastic bag, and spray away?
Just don't spray it directly with a ton of water, and dry it off when you're done by driving around a bit.
 

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Agreed but a car operates on 12v
Actually doesnā€™t the jl now have 48, and what about Tesla, leaf, volt, Prius and the rest. Gone are the days where saying itā€™s a car itā€™s safe cause itā€™s just 12V. That was my point. I deal with DC systems that will make you DRT. So Iā€™m just trying to kill the old adage that DC is safe while AC isnā€™t. Both are extremely dangerous in the right circumstances
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