We have our share. But I've been on the 6g forum and it's the same thing there. It happens with every group.
I browsed there for a bit and I couldn’t keep going. Hard to crown a vehicle that won’t be on the street in a long time. It’s easy to say the 2030 camaro is better then the current stang. Well it is easy to say that since the comparable Camaro is better then the comparable stang right now and has been for a decade.
I'm obviously on the Bronco6G forum as well ...but what's odd and what I've observed is this whole conception of crowning the Bronco the winner seems to mostly exist on this forum. Over here, people talk like everyone else is saying the Bronco has already won, but over there, most of the people who are declaring the Bronco the winner are the ones who have had experience with Jeep for many many years (TJ, JK, JL) and just sound fed up with FCA and issues they seem to have, and simply don't want to buy Jeeps anymore. And are very happy that there is finally another choice.
Admit it Richtor. you belong to the JK forums.
It really does remind me of the Ponytail days of JKforum. I wonder if Eddie has a new venture?
Yes stealing from everyone else. I want original source. Haha.
oh ya, SVTP is great. There was a super nice Ford assembly worker there who actually sent me videos of my actual GT350R at different stages along the assembly line!
In finding this info for you I stumbled across a pretty decent site which seems to be sourcing from official numbers. They're all over the net for the Bronco, but oddly enough very hard to find on the Rubicon...I waited for the bronco to be revealed so I could see how it is. It looks nice, has nice features, and does some things really really well (see: mirrors on body, can fit doors in back, neat tailgate things, etc)
But I didn't like the actual off-road parts. I'm sure it's plenty capable, but I just didn't like parts of it.
The Jeep has big fender flares that let the tires stick out more. The Ford doesn't. I suppose you could make changes yourself and let that happen. The Jeep has an oversized bumper. The Ford does not, unless you change it. With the Jeep, the actual body panels are more inboard and protected by the bumper, wheels, fender flares, etc. If you hit something, just spray black rust-oleum and move on. With the Ford, if you hit something, you're getting body damage. See the below picture.
The other thing I didn't like about the bronco was the independent front suspension. It can't flex. It's hard to see here, but I'm pretty sure the front driver side wheel is off the ground. No flex. The Jeep, on the other hand, has some absurd flex, thanks to the solid front axle. I'll have to see how it does when put on ramps, but it didn't look too great from the video I saw
That said, I'm sure the bronco will be a fine vehicle and can create some good competition. Competition usually benefits the consumer, so maybe Jeep and ford will have a little war and we'll all benefit. But the bronco just didn't quite meet my expectations. I'll stick with Jeep for now
Interesting. Maybe in the video they just didn't have the sway bar disconnected? Good to know it can flex!
2.7L (310hp, 400lb-ft) wasn’t available with manual. The base Badlands with 2.3L (270hp, 310 lb-ft) is available with manual. This has sway bar disconnect and pretty much everything Sasquatch package has minus the 35” tires. You cannot currently with the info we know, get Sasquatch with a manual.
