Baxter oil adapter..

[scotchbro]

Thoughts on weather it is really a need or worth getting?.

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[alphawolff]

Completely pointless.

 

[scotchbro]

Completely pointless.

Was thinking the same, oil pump should be pretty top notch for getting oil through engine. Thanks for your input

 

[Old Dogger]

Completely pointless.

100% agree..........

 

[Ratbert]

Recent discussion: https://www.jlwranglerforums.com/forum/threads/baxter-filter-adapter.138841

 

[Mike_Hawk]

I'm going to be installing one on my next oil change. The way the pentastar was integrated into the wrangler results in all the oil draining into the pan after about 20 min when you turn it off. Idk about you, but I don't exactly like the idea of having the cam shaft run unlubricated even if it's only for .25 seconds. How many times over the vehicles life will you turn it on? Now multiply that by .25 seconds... (I know that's not how wear is calculated) but it's significant enough where I want to avoid wearing out the cam (and more importantly the lifters) at all costs. It's the main known failure point of the JL 3.6 engine.

Changing over to spin on filters is a huge added bonus.

The other thing to think about is how flimsy the stock oil filter housing is, if I can screw a Baxter in one time and never deal with the OEM plastic threads I might die a happy man.

 

[Da Capt]

Thoughts on weather it is really a need or worth getting?.

When I first seen this I thought it was much needed, however after a few years and many people who got them said it’s not worth it so I decided not to get one

 

[Willys41]

Thoughts on weather it is really a need or worth getting?.

I run one on both my 3.6 wranglers and NO more bone chilling rattle rattle on start up.
The Baxter along with the spin on oil filter both have a anti drain back valve keeping the oil up in the filter.
I was shocked the first time a change my oil finding NO oil in the filter housing and the filter filter was almost dry. All the oil had drained out of the housing and oil cooler back to the pan leaving a large air pocket that now has to be pushed though the oil galleys on cold start ups.
This is just common sense.

 

[rmartino99]

I guess my question, is there any way it hurts to install one. Other then the wallet?

 

[Willys41]

I guess my question, is there any way it hurts to install one. Other then the wallet?

I was very hesitant and then when I was at my local 4x4 shop I saw Joe selling one to a customer. So I ask what he thought about the Baxter.
He said he has installed dozens and has one on his own jeep and that was good enough for me.
I first installed one on my 2018 and was so happy with it eliminating the rattle rattle on cold starts I installed one on my 2020 Willys.
I just wished I would have done it sooner.

 

[roaniecowpony]

I guess my question, is there any way it hurts to install one. Other then the wallet?

Probably the biggest concern I have is the added weight out on a long moment arm combined with the engine vibration which causes high G accelerations. In other words: a lot more weight sticking out a lot further. You're replacing the plastic cap with a chunk of aluminum that is north of a pound, then adding a steel can filter full of oil, weighing another pound or so, out another few inches, then you vibrate it with the engine pulses. When you look at how narrow the oil filter housing is, the few small bolts torqued to like 106 lbs/in or 9 lbs/ft, it gets looking pretty sketchy. If the plastic housings were warping and cracking before, my concern is how well they hold up to this significant added load.

 

[CarbonSteel]

Probably the biggest concern I have is the added weight out on a long moment arm combined with the engine vibration which causes high G accelerations. In other words: a lot more weight sticking out a lot further. You're replacing the plastic cap with a chunk of aluminum that is north of a pound, then adding a steel can filter full of oil, weighing another pound or so, out another few inches, then you vibrate it with the engine pulses. When you look at how narrow the oil filter housing is, the few small bolts torqued to like 106 lbs/in or 9 lbs/ft, it gets looking pretty sketchy. If the plastic housings were warping and cracking before, my concern is how well they hold up to this significant added load.

It's why, before my 3.6L went tango uniform I was going to install the remote mount and anchor the hoses going over to it to prevent exactly what you're talking about. You're creating a torque arm that applies more leverage on top of an already questionable design.

 

[roaniecowpony]

It's why, before my 3.6L went tango uniform I was going to install the remote mount and anchor the hoses going over to it to prevent exactly what you're talking about. You're creating a torque arm that applies more leverage on top of an already questionable design.

When you look at the picture of the base of the OFH above, it's clear only 3 of the 5 bolts are going to take the torsion (side to side from the engine vibration axis) load from adding a Baxter and filter. The plastic just doesn't have the modulus to make those two other bolts do much. It wasn't intended to take that load.

 

[CarbonSteel]

When you look at the picture of the base of the OFH above, it's clear only 3 of the 5 bolts are going to take the torsion (side to side from the engine vibration axis) load from adding a Baxter and filter. The plastic just doesn't have the modulus to make those two other bolts do much. It wasn't intended to take that load.

100%. I feel very confident you may solve one issue with the spin on but you're going to create a myriad of others. The least of which is having to take the whole top half of the engine apart to repair a leak.

FCA should have taken the design that Mercedes had when they owned them instead of inventing this POS that they did. They had the solution right in front of them.

I had a twin turbo AMG 3.0L that the entire system was all aluminum with the exception of the cap.

Fairly certain the filter housing on my Ford is all aluminum (with a plastic cap) but it's built into the block so it has zero capability for leaks. If the 3.6L had something like this it would be a dream and would be one less thing to worry about.

 

[RustyACE]

Thoughts on weather it is really a need or worth getting?.

I installed very easy. Changing oil super easy. May or may not help but I change my own oil and I have it sent for analysis every time. The ability to use air pressure to empty the oil from top of the engine is super easy.

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