4xE Order Status??

[Skeethree]

This is from an owner in the UK.
"I get up to 26 miles on a full charge, and when you've run out of battery the Jeep turns into a normal hybrid, generating electricity under braking and the e-motor helping out where it can. On a 51-mile drive around London our Jeep showed a 60.9mpg average, with 31.6 miles driven in electric mode."
And the Hummer hybrid H3 has 268 hp, a 40 mile all-electric range, and a fuel efficiency of over 100 mpg. Not MPGe.

So it used 8/10 of a gallon to cover 25 miles after the battery was drained, or 30 mpg, I assume this is a Renegade or Compass, no 4xe in Europe yet. Sounds about right for the smaller hybrid keeps.

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[Skeethree]

So it used 8/10 of a gallon to cover 25 miles after the battery was drained, or 30 mpg, I assume this is a Renegade or Compass, no 4xe in Europe yet. Sounds about right for the smaller hybrid keeps.

The Hummer Hybrid gets 100 mpg gasoline/electric combined for the first 65 miles after being charged, then drops to around 30 mpg. It will go 40 miles on electricity (which you also pay for), then about 25 miles on 2/3 of a gallon imperial, and that equals 100 mpg-e, but it will not be equaled until you recharge. Still no 100 mpg magic

 

[TDangelo1219]

You'll get about 45-50mpg in hybrid mode. Don't forget it charges itself while driving. So you don't need to calculate electricity cost unless you use electric only mode. Then you'll need to plug it in unless you drive long/far enough to charge what you used. But hybrid mode auto switches between gas and electric to keep your battery topped off.

Not exactly correct. Actually (sorry, not trying to be mean) mostly incorrect.
1. You'll get about 45-50mpg in hybrid mode. If you drive under 25 miles on most round trips you'll be astounded by the mileage. But after the battery is showing 0% and you're driving around in hybrid mode I'd expect numbers closer to 30ish mpg in town and 24 mpg on the hwy, nowhere near 50 mpg.
2. Don't forget it charges itself while driving. It can BUT not in hybrid mode. It won't top off the battery unless you put in E-Save mode which basically turns off the hybrid system. That will cause the engine to work harder to not only drive the vehicle but it also acts as a generator to charge the battery which will reduce your gas mileage. On my Volvo it's not efficient at all to use the car to charge the battery. So it CAN, but at a cost.
3. So you don't need to calculate electricity cost unless you use electric only mode. Then you'll need to plug it in unless you drive long/far enough to charge what you used. Honestly just pretend you didn't read that. You get a little charge back in hybrid mode here and there with re-gen breaking. Maybe a few miles. Certainly not enough to charge the battery. To get the best mpg you'll definitely need to plug it in every day.
4. But hybrid mode auto switches between gas and electric to keep your battery topped off. No it doesn't. Hybrid mode allows the vehicle to shut down the engine momentarily to run on all electric during very light power demands after the battery is showing 0%. While you have a charge you'll be depleting the battery not charging it. (Except when breaking you'll get a bit) After your battery gauge show 0% it will stay there until you charge it back up. (or break all the way down a mountain)

 

[Bill Reiter]

The inconsistent info on this thread re: hybrid power delivery has me worried (maybe this should be its own separate thread?).

I just received notice that my Rubicon 4xe order just went D1 and is expected to be here in early/mid March. Although the 4xe will be used as a daily (kid hauler/grocery getter), it will get substantial and frequent use as an off-roader (moderate + level trails).

It seems from this thread that the power delivery will always be full electric power with CE supplementing the electric when extra thrust is needed until the battery is depleted (to 10%), at which time power delivery goes to CE with just a bit of battery left to occasionally supplement.

My problem is this--most good trails are at least 30+ highway miles away from my home, so we have a 30+ mile drive before we get to the trail. Does this mean that I am going to have no electric charge and be on full CE (with 500+ extra pounds of extra weight) for all of our off-roading? That would be far from ideal for off-roading.

I thought we could drive to the trail on primarily CE power and drive the trail on primarily electric supplemented by CE when needed.

This uncertainty has me questioning the hybrid choice.

 

[robynE]

Yes, it should definitely be its own thread.

 

[Sboden]

The inconsistent info on this thread re: hybrid power delivery has me worried (maybe this should be its own separate thread?).

I just received notice that my Rubicon 4xe order just went D1 and is expected to be here in early/mid March. Although the 4xe will be used as a daily (kid hauler/grocery getter), it will get substantial and frequent use as an off-roader (moderate + level trails).

It seems from this thread that the power delivery will always be full electric power with CE supplementing the electric when extra thrust is needed until the battery is depleted (to 10%), at which time power delivery goes to CE with just a bit of battery left to occasionally supplement.

My problem is this--most good trails are at least 30+ highway miles away from my home, so we have a 30+ mile drive before we get to the trail. Does this mean that I am going to have no electric charge and be on full CE (with 500+ extra pounds of extra weight) for all of our off-roading? That would be far from ideal for off-roading.

I thought we could drive to the trail on primarily CE power and drive the trail on primarily electric supplemented by CE when needed.

This uncertainty has me questioning the hybrid choice.

There is a mode you can turn on to use the ICE only to the trail and then switch to full electric while on the trail. Even when on the trail in hybrid, you would have the torque due to the amount left in the battery for just this reason.

 

[Bill Reiter]

Yes, it should definitely be its own thread.

Sorry, Robyn. Given how much discussion there already was on this topic in this thread (even though it doesn't apply to order status), I just defaulted to continuing it here. I will repost as a separate thread.

 

[Oilburner]

Amazed that Jeep is this >< close to delivering these vehicles, yet you can count on one hand the number driving reviews I've seen.

 

[no.sleep]

Amazed that Jeep is this >< close to delivering these vehicles, yet you can count on one hand the number driving reviews I've seen.

Which ones have you seen? I can't seem to find any for the 4xe...

 

[Oilburner]

Which ones have you seen? I can't seem to find any for the 4xe...

Here's one

 

[jdeolivares]

Here is an update on my order. My Rubicon 4xe is now built and awaiting shuttle transport from the factory to rail line. It is still in Toledo. By rail it ships to Spokane Washington and then to Dave Smith, the dealership in Kellog ID. This is from Jeep Chat just now. I ordered 11/13. On 1/14 it was in G-Trim status with an estimated ship date of 1/19. Obviously the ship date is delayed. But it is getting closer. Maybe it is waiting for the Monroney sticker which requires the mpg. Jeep has yet to announce the mpg for the 4xe. Perhaps that is the holdup.

 

[evaughan3]

What’s the best way to track order production these days? Ordered a Rubicon 4xe last week.... probably won’t see it until April but who knows.

 

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[Sboden]

Mine is now in storage waiting transport.

 

[mryan]

Mine is now in storage waiting transport.

Mine too.

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