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Free float axle.
JeepinPete
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According to Jeep. Gladiator with the same semi-floating axle is rated up toe 7500 lbs. Doesn't really pass the sniff test.
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If you want to play by the rules, I would follow this screenshot from Google AI:
However if you want to talk about what you can realistically get away with...
That depends more on what you're towing, and where you're towing it to. If you're planning on going up a mountain in Colorado, I would stay under whatever the rating on your 2024 Willys is.
However I have personally pulled double+ (~8,000 lbs) the weight my '21 JLU EcoDiesel is rated for, 400 mi across flat ass Texas, with zero issues. About 4 hours of driving one way with outside temps around 98°f. The engine saw a max temperature around 232°f, and that was with the AC running and the engine fan on full blast. We only stopped once halfway so I could top off the fuel tank, but I never turned off the engine the whole way. My mileage ate shit, but beyond that wasn't too bad.
However if you want to talk about what you can realistically get away with...
That depends more on what you're towing, and where you're towing it to. If you're planning on going up a mountain in Colorado, I would stay under whatever the rating on your 2024 Willys is.
However I have personally pulled double+ (~8,000 lbs) the weight my '21 JLU EcoDiesel is rated for, 400 mi across flat ass Texas, with zero issues. About 4 hours of driving one way with outside temps around 98°f. The engine saw a max temperature around 232°f, and that was with the AC running and the engine fan on full blast. We only stopped once halfway so I could top off the fuel tank, but I never turned off the engine the whole way. My mileage ate shit, but beyond that wasn't too bad.
JeepinPete
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Agreed. Jeep says the JLUR got an uprated tow capacity due to the axle, not due to a revised suspension. That is illogical. For my own sanity, I looked up the axle shaft bearing for both the Wrangler and the Gladiator. Same part #. The point I am getting at is the chassis and drivetrain were all designed for a 5k lb tow capacity, Jeep just derated them state side vs overseas.
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There's an actual rating system and calculation for maximum trailer weight relative to minimally acceptable towing performance produced by the Society of Automotive Engineers (SAE, J2807).
The Jeep will tow 20 or 30 thousand pounds provided it can get it moving and the tongue weight doesn't break the rear axle and blow out the tires. That doesn't mean it's safe or advisable to do so, or that it can effectively stop the load once it's got some velocity.
The limiting factors are typically wheelbase, suspension, tire load ratings, and braking. It's possible to tow heavier than the official rating, but again, you're taking chances on stuff like braking and handling of the vehicle combination. Even if you're planning to tow 5k instead of the advertised 3500.
JL Wranglers aren't very good tow vehicles, period.
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I agree those numbers are just recommendations. I gotta put it in 4 low and lock the diffs to get up the boat ramp though.If you want to play by the rules, I would follow this screenshot from Google AI:
However if you want to talk about what you can realistically get away with...
That depends more on what you're towing, and where you're towing it to. If you're planning on going up a mountain in Colorado, I would stay under whatever the rating on your 2024 Willys is.
However I have personally pulled double+ (~8,000 lbs) the weight my '21 JLU EcoDiesel is rated for, 400 mi across flat ass Texas, with zero issues. About 4 hours of driving one way with outside temps around 98°f. The engine saw a max temperature around 232°f, and that was with the AC running and the engine fan on full blast. We only stopped once halfway so I could top off the fuel tank, but I never turned off the engine the whole way. My mileage ate shit, but beyond that wasn't too bad.
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dstevens
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There are multiple versions of the owners manual, some which show 5000 lbs and some that do not. Also the frontal area is different. Here's what the online manual shows.
The reason the Gladiator is different is that the tow rating test involves acceleration, braking, cornering and (most importantly) cooling system tests. Or marketing wanted the Gladiator to be higher.
The reason the Gladiator is different is that the tow rating test involves acceleration, braking, cornering and (most importantly) cooling system tests. Or marketing wanted the Gladiator to be higher.
