Assfrow, Yokramer, and Remorseless's Circle jerk thread

[Remorseless]

Man, this thing is a blade truss short of being another thread

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[Mustapha Mond]

Ah OK you bought new springs, I was thinking takeoffs since that's what most XR swaps are and was like "How the fuck did you find takeoff 2 door XR springs" since they're such a rare option.

Anyway, since that'd get you like 1.5"ish out of those springs you'd get most of the 2" of up travel the bump extension would take back, just not all of it at that height. The thing with less than 2" of bump is I'm pretty sure you'd end up having to trim into the double wall section of the tub in the rear to accommodate full stuff (even moreso with the 0 offset wheel), which I'm interpreting as being counter to your desire to avoid getting into a complicated cut (pretty sure it wouldn't be full comp cut, but the tub structure starts getting funky back there once you get out of the flat parts of the pinch seam).

Do make sure you didn't miss Dusty's update though, bump extension pic and size update:

They are take off springs from eBay, no way I'd pay retail for stock springs. I got the whole set for about $100.

That is the point I have been trying to make this whole time that everyone seems to be ignoring. My fenders are already cut. I am willing to cut more. I am just not willing to tub the rear wheel wells or cut out the factory core support and have to relocate a bunch of components. I have a welder and seam sealer to close the tub back up.

I am specifically wanting to hear from other people who aren't afraid of cutting out sheet metal to see how much they had to cut to maintain stock, or close to stock compression height with 38-40" tires.

I don't care about people who are running over 2.5" of lift with over 2" of bumpstop extensions. That is not what I am trying to accomplish, but I guess that is what I get for asking a more advanced question on a largely bolt-on forum. The only reason I posted this thread over here is because there aren't many JL builds on Irate, so I was hoping to get input from people who have already done what I am planning to do.

Here is a JK a guy on Irate built with 39.5s at stock ride height with full uptravel. This is kind of what I am going for, but I am not willing to do quite as much cutting as he did, hence my comments about running as small of a bump stop extension as possible and going up to XR ride height from standard Rubicon ride height.

 

[Mustapha Mond]

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I dig a lot of Next Venture's stuff, but it is just way overpriced for what it is. If that kit were $2000, I would have probably already bought it.

 

[ASSFROW]

They are take off springs from eBay, no way I'd pay retail for stock springs. I got the whole set for about $100.

That is the point I have been trying to make this whole time that everyone seems to be ignoring. My fenders are already cut. I am willing to cut more. I am just not willing to tub the rear wheel wells or cut out the factory core support and have to relocate a bunch of components. I have a welder and seam sealer to close the tub back up.

I am specifically wanting to hear from other people who aren't afraid of cutting out sheet metal to see how much they had to cut to maintain stock, or close to stock compression height with 38-40" tires.

I don't care about people who are running over 2.5" of lift with over 2" of bumpstop extensions. That is not what I am trying to accomplish, but I guess that is what I get for asking a more advanced question on a largely bolt-on forum. The only reason I posted this thread over here is because there aren't many JL builds on Irate, so I was hoping to get input from people who have already done what I am planning to do.

Here is a JK a guy on Irate built with 39.5s at stock ride height with full uptravel. This is kind of what I am going for, but I am not willing to do quite as much cutting as he did, hence my comments about running as small of a bump stop extension as possible and going up to XR ride height from standard Rubicon ride height.

Well no. No one ignored anything. You never said alot of what you said in this post. You said keep it low, not no lift and even said you had XR springs, so yes you are willing to lift. Now you have made it clear. I don't think you're going to find many if any people that didn't lift and did more cutting than has been posted in this thread, because it's not necessary for the JL platform. It just doesn't make much sense when you can do a small lift and run 40s with a little cutting. People aren't going to cut the shit out of their Jeep when they can lift it a little avoiding tons of cutting AND add up travel. It seems like most people stop at 38s anyway, because the trade off for 40s just isn't there.

 

[yokramer]

Well no. No one ignored anything. You never said alot of what you said in this post. You said keep it low, not no lift and even said you had XR springs, so yes you are willing to lift. Now you have made it clear. I don't think you're going to find many if any people that didn't lift and did more cutting than has been posted in this thread, because it's not necessary for the JL platform. It just doesn't make much sense when you can do a small lift and run 40s with a little cutting. People aren't going to cut the shit out of their Jeep when they can lift it a little avoiding tons of cutting AND add up travel. It seems like most people stop at 38s anyway, because the trade off for 40s just isn't there.

 

[Remorseless]

They are take off springs from eBay, no way I'd pay retail for stock springs. I got the whole set for about $100.

That is the point I have been trying to make this whole time that everyone seems to be ignoring. My fenders are already cut. I am willing to cut more. I am just not willing to tub the rear wheel wells or cut out the factory core support and have to relocate a bunch of components. I have a welder and seam sealer to close the tub back up.

I am specifically wanting to hear from other people who aren't afraid of cutting out sheet metal to see how much they had to cut to maintain stock, or close to stock compression height with 38-40" tires.

I don't care about people who are running over 2.5" of lift with over 2" of bumpstop extensions. That is not what I am trying to accomplish, but I guess that is what I get for asking a more advanced question on a largely bolt-on forum. The only reason I posted this thread over here is because there aren't many JL builds on Irate, so I was hoping to get input from people who have already done what I am planning to do.

Here is a JK a guy on Irate built with 39.5s at stock ride height with full uptravel. This is kind of what I am going for, but I am not willing to do quite as much cutting as he did, hence my comments about running as small of a bump stop extension as possible and going up to XR ride height from standard Rubicon ride height.

You're just not going to find a lot of folks who've actually carried that out here (I spend most days bullshitting on here while working, and have for the last few years, and I can't remember anyone who's actually carried through with stock suspension + 38s/39s or similar). Lots of folks who aren't afraid of sheet metal cutting, but keeping stock height is the odd config out in 39s-on-a-JL-land. LCOG for a JL just usually ends up meaning 2-2.5" springs (over stock Rubi, so 0.5"-1" over XR springs) and big tires around here.

Anyway, was thinking about this last night and remembered to mention - keeping in that 1.5-2" bump range, which is still where I think you'll end up, but since that's just a little low on up travel with XR springs (at least for my tastes, maybe you're aight with it), you might wanna consider something like this as part of the system: Metalcloak's DuroSpring Microcellular Replacement Bumpers, JK/JL Wrangler, Full Set

Obviously not a hydro bump or anything that's gonna be a drastic performance changer, but will add roughly 1" of bump at full compression and turn that inch into something a little bit less harsh. Make that part of the bump stroke a little bit softer. You could then run like a 1" puck + the MC bumps, have a total of ~1.5-2" of bump at full compression , which would keep trimming in the acceptable range, but keep the "hard" bump down to an inch, which may make the low up travel at least feel a bit less shitty.

 

[Mustapha Mond]

Well no. No one ignored anything. You never said alot of what you said in this post. You said keep it low, not no lift and even said you had XR springs, so yes you are willing to lift. Now you have made it clear. I don't think you're going to find many if any people that didn't lift and did more cutting than has been posted in this thread, because it's not necessary for the JL platform. It just doesn't make much sense when you can do a small lift and run 40s with a little cutting. People aren't going to cut the shit out of their Jeep when they can lift it a little avoiding tons of cutting AND add up travel. It seems like most people stop at 38s anyway, because the trade off for 40s just isn't there.

I said all of this, but the three of you have been to busy shitposting and jerking eachother off to notice I guess. None of you have done, or are doing what I am asking about, so why are you posting in this thread?

 

[Terrymo]

ok I’m an asshole a lot of the time even without trying. So what the hell, why stop now right? When someone comes on a forum and asks something then counters with answers generally along the lines of I’m an expert and I’m advanced and I already know all that and I guess that’s what I get for asking the “less thans“ I’m always left wondering was the person really interested in any input good or bad or did they just want to brag about how they knew better.

Then because Im a super slow typer the post right above mine proves my point.

 

[Remorseless]

I said all of this, but the three of you have been to busy shitposting and jerking eachother off to notice I guess. None of you have done, or are doing what I am asking about, so why are you posting in this thread?

 

[Terrymo]

When some people post and nobody says wow you’re a badass sometimes it makes them sad so they lash out and say mean things. Don‘t let it ruin your day.

 

[Remorseless]

When some people post and nobody says wow you’re a badass sometimes it makes them sad so they lash out and say mean things. Don‘t let it ruin your day.

I mean honestly the thing that got me was talking about shitposting when Irate4x4 was billed as the new Pirate4x4 by a fair few folks. And if you're gonna swing with that cred, then shitposting is part of the game.

Anyway, I at least want it noted I tried to be helpful about bump stop configs before I resorted to shitposting. Figured homie could at least extrapolate from one tire size to another.

 

[yokramer]

I mean honestly the thing that got me was talking about shitposting when Irate4x4 was billed as the new Pirate4x4 by a fair few folks. And if you're gonna swing with that cred, then shitposting is part of the game.

Anyway, I at least want it noted I tried to be helpful about bump stop configs before I resorted to shitposting. Figured homie could at least extrapolate from one tire size to another.

I also added my actual experiences with offset and stock height too, then the goal posts took on an advanced movement that apparently we just couldnt keep up with.

 

[Terrymo]

I mean honestly the thing that got me was talking about shitposting when Irate4x4 was billed as the new Pirate4x4 by a fair few folks. And if you're gonna swing with that cred, then shitposting is part of the game.

Anyway, I at least want it noted I tried to be helpful about bump stop configs before I resorted to shitposting. Figured homie could at least extrapolate from one tire size to another.

Yeah Pirate4x4 or its watered down iteration.…people here don’t even know they should show some respect when you throw that out. You were so helpful I thought dang someone hacked his account. Then I thought he’s being very tolerant of assholery throughout this thread maybe he’s unwell. I mean rather than the obvious suggestion of getting the stuff mounted and doing the suspension travel work yourself it is easier to tell people to give you the answer and then when they guess say…no you’re wrong…Gosh! Idiots!

 

[yokramer]

Yeah Pirate4x4 or its watered down iteration.…people here don’t even know they should show some respect when you throw that out. You were so helpful I thought dang someone hacked his account. Then I thought he’s being very tolerant of assholery throughout this thread maybe he’s unwell. I mean rather than the obvious suggestion of getting the stuff mounted and doing the suspension travel work yourself it is easier to tell people to give you the answer and then when they guess say…no you’re wrong…Gosh! Idiots!

A new plague must be running through his house right now

 

[Remorseless]

A new plague must be running through his house right now

Nah, I've just been thinking still about plans for 39s and this actually fit with that.

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