3.6 longevity solution

[m3reno]

What evidence is there of what the dealer said? I'm not disputing them, I'd just like to think at some point we live in an evidence based society. On my V6 it clattered like hell on a cold start and my believe was that number of cold starts was the problem more than anything else. I only have a hypothesis and no evidence of that being the cause.

Roller followers need only a tiny amount of oil compared to journal bearings. Splash lubrication works. Lifters will tell you if they don't have enough oil pressure, like I heard on a cold start.

As for oil change interval, look at the oil analysis viscosity and TBN. If they are within spec and there is no metal in the oil, then the oil is still good. Mine was good to 7500+ miles so I generally change at 6000 miles, often because I do long trips and don't want an oil change in the middle of one.

I'm not saying I believe him, I'm just stating what he said when the subject of failed rockers came up. All he said is he has seen his fair share of failed cams and rockers and was concluding that idling and lower viscosity oil was the culprit due to low pressure at idle. But Alphwolf already debunked the low pressure at idle.

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[Jtphoto]

I had the same problem with 3.6 bone chilling rattle rattle on cold starts and I was stunned to see on my first oil change that the oil filter housing was completely void of oil and the filter did not even have oil dripping off of it.
I discovered the Baxter oil filter adapter was not convinced until my local 4x4 shop said he had installed dozens of them so I gave it a try.
I now have Baxter on both my jeep and no more bone chilling rattle rattle.
This is common scene. With the Baxter you now have two anti drain back valves.
No more draining back of the filter and oil cooler housing.

I live where it gets cold, I run 0W20, I have 90,000klm and have not had any start up clatter. I use the NAPA (Wix) oil filters. I do my own Oil changes every 10,000klm (6000miles). At 10,000klm the oil life meter usually says 25% or more oil life.

 

[JeepinJason33]

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Because items are interchangeable does not make it the SAME engine. The twin turbo 2018 and newer Maserati engines require 10W-60 per the owners manual.

 

[Astro Jeep]

I am thankful for my 2022 diesel. It has 109k+ on it, and no issues so far. That said, I change all my fluids well before what the book recommends. Every mass-produced engine will have its issues, and there will always be those who modify without knowing what they are doing and then say Jeeps are unreliable.

 

[SaintNick]

Not really about oil but more about idling your Jeep.

Well I already changed to 5w-30 a month ago. Won't hurt and might make difference.

 

[m3reno]

I changed to 5w 30 last year. Hopefully this helps! What I really think the main contributing factor is poor manufacturing of the rockers. Someone mentioned in other posts that even brand new rockers come faulty from the manufacturer.

 

[Willys41]

Because items are interchangeable does not make it the SAME engine. The twin turbo 2018 and newer Maserati engines require 10W-60 per the owners manual.

The recommended oil type for a Maserati Ghibli with a 3.0L V6 engine depends on the model year:

2014–2017: 5W-40
2018+: 10W-60

0W20 TO 5W30 USE UP TO 800ppm ZDDP
5W40 USE UP TO 1200ppm ZDDP

ZDDP, or zinc dialkyldithiophosphate, is a chemical additive used in engine oils, transmission fluids, and other lubricants. It's a combination of zinc and phosphorus that helps reduce wear and tear on engine parts, especially during start-up:

My choice is Valvoline European 5w40.

 

[Jsmeltz]

What I got out of the conversation was that at idle the pump struggles and the PSI are low at idle. That and the thinner sheered oil is the issue at idle, which is the reason for the 5000 mile oil changes. Not sure how true it is, but just relating what was said. He also said that he has seen his fair share of failed 3.6's and this was his conclusion. He also said the 2.0 was a much better engine which kinda shocked me.

I had a 2021 Sahara built for my wife and went with the I4. What a mistake! Blew a head gasket in less than 15K miles. Just got her Willys and this time went with this V6...Never again with the I4....

 

[Flip]

I had a 2021 Sahara built for my wife and went with the I4. What a mistake! Blew a head gasket in less than 15K miles. Just got her Willys and this time went with this V6...Never again with the I4....

This could quite possibly start WWIII.

Nice Willys Bro.

 

[UncleJimmy]

I don't let my Jeep idle excessively, but I do let it idle till the oil is at or over 100 degrees. On trails I actually turn my A/C on if it's hot out. Not for me, but for the Jeep. That makes the fan go full blast and it helps keep the oil/coolant temps low. I actually just ordered the gen 3 940 watt fan for my Jeep. That should make a difference with temps. Anyway, isn't this like the 4th thread this month starting the same oil argument?

A lot easier to use the cooldown function I the tazer than wait for the Jeep logic to kick the fan on.

 

[UncleJimmy]

5w30 changed every 3-5,000 miles in my 2018 JKUR. Valve train failure at 59,920 miles. Personally, I think the culprit is poor heat management. 235º is not okay. I'm running an RPMExtreme fan controller in my JL now and I've got to work really hard to get it past 210º. 90% of the time it's at 199º. This is a combination of hard trails and inter-state traveling.

Oil or coolant temps?

 

[Old Dogger]

I had a 2021 Sahara built for my wife and went with the I4. What a mistake! Blew a head gasket in less than 15K miles. Just got her Willys and this time went with this V6...Never again with the I4....

Good decision..

 

[m3reno]

Is there a setting on the tazer to let the fans kick on earlier while driving? or just on shut down.

 

[UncleJimmy]

Is there a setting on the tazer to let the fans kick on earlier while driving? or just on shut down.

Yes. You can force on and off at will.

https://www.jlwranglerforums.com/fo...ogramming-to-help-prevent-overheating.125710/

 

[Jeep Junkie]

The recommended oil type for a Maserati Ghibli with a 3.0L V6 engine depends on the model year:

2014–2017: 5W-40
2018+: 10W-60

0W20 TO 5W30 USE UP TO 800ppm ZDDP
5W40 USE UP TO 1200ppm ZDDP

ZDDP, or zinc dialkyldithiophosphate, is a chemical additive used in engine oils, transmission fluids, and other lubricants. It's a combination of zinc and phosphorus that helps reduce wear and tear on engine parts, especially during start-up:

My choice is Valvoline European 5w40.

I am using HPL Super Car 0w30 that has 1,200 ppm Zinc and is so thick for a 0w30, it is 12 at 100 degrees.. It also has a TBN of a whopping 17.5

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