Question on 1st Tire Rotation

[J.Ferreira]

But why, please.

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[Zandcwhite]

20%

It's 20% more tread life at 20% more cost. I'd imagine the 4 tire rotation crowd doesn't buy 5 new tires when the spare is still brand new? If you keep the spare as the spare permanently and just buy 4 tires at a time, sure you're buying tires 20% more often, but you're saving that same 20% in purchase price. It's a wash. On the JL I do 5 tire rotations, but I also change brand and size pretty much every time I need tires. On the JT it's 4 tire rotations and that spare can stay under the truck every time I buy 4 tires. The cost savings is a myth unless you think people are out there throwing away their brand new spare every time they need tires?

 

[Astro Jeep]

Wow, never heard of that. Clever.

If I remember correctly, there is a good thread about it here on the forum. If you wheel a lot over rough terrain, you WILL get chunks taken out of your tire knobs. Theoretically, this could invalidate a wheel balance. As your tire wears or becomes damaged, the balance beads find the tire's new balance every time you drive. I have driven on some torn-up tires, which are safe but still chunked up badly, and the ride on the pavement was still good because of them.

 

[Ratbert]

Not necessarily the same as a need for a re-alignment.

Absolutely not the same. I was just using that as an example of another wasted expense if it wasn't needed.

 

[bugnuker]

I'm at 19000 miles on my 2024. I've done clockwise 5 tire rotations every 5k miles, at the same time I change the oil. Does the oil need to be changed every 5k? Nope, but I do it anyways because I like everything lining up.

 

[sunset]

Does the oil need to be changed every 5k?

I know. The last time I checked the oil before the change, it looked pretty clean to me. I'm used to thinking of oil as being quite dark. Where'd I get that idea?

 

[Rpk99]

All tire manufacturers tire sizes are not the same exact size. They may not be off by much or even enough to make a difference. That being said, if you're planning on buying the exact same tire as you have on now then you only need to do a 4 tire rotation. I personally do a 5 tire rotation so they are all always at equal trwad. When my tires need replaced I may decide to try something different. Yes, I'll have to buy 5 tires but it's better than having a miss matched tire. Just my opinion.

 

[jeep_from_downunder]

Last month when I took my Jeep Wrangler JLU in for a service and rotation at my local Jeep dealership. The front wheels that were worn, was moved to the driver side and the rear wheels were moved to the passenger side. The person who rotated probably didn't know how to properly rotate the wheels.

 

[sunset]

Last month when I took my Jeep Wrangler JLU in for a service and rotation at my local Jeep dealership. The front wheels that were worn, was moved to the driver side and the rear wheels were moved to the passenger side. The person who rotated probably didn't know how to properly rotate the wheels.

That sounds like he just rotated them counter-clockwise.

 

[Terrymo]

That sounds like he just rotated them counter-clockwise.

Always rotate them the opposite direction of the Coriolis Effect depending on the hemisphere you’re in.

 

[Mogrunt]

Are you saying these aren't directional???

What about these??? Even the fronts are directional...

I'm just funnin with ya.
In reality, you just don't see directional tires that often anymore. Atleast not unless they are high performance tires of some sort.

Those, and my Corvette.
I’m just happy my Rubi tires are still cheaper than the Vette’s.

 

[Ratbert]

That sounds like he just rotated them counter-clockwise.

It sounds like they just swapped left and right, but maybe I'm misreading it.

 

[sunset]

It sounds like they just swapped left and right, but maybe I'm misreading it.

Well, he's saying that LF and RF became LF and LR, and that LR and RR became RF and RR. I assumed all four tires moved (and not just leaving LF as LF and RR as RR) thus it would have to be the CCW rotation. Ha, I had to draw it to visualize it, as lame as my brain is with spatial reasoning.

 

[azwjowner]

It's 20% more tread life at 20% more cost. I'd imagine the 4 tire rotation crowd doesn't buy 5 new tires when the spare is still brand new? If you keep the spare as the spare permanently and just buy 4 tires at a time, sure you're buying tires 20% more often, but you're saving that same 20% in purchase price. It's a wash. On the JL I do 5 tire rotations, but I also change brand and size pretty much every time I need tires. On the JT it's 4 tire rotations and that spare can stay under the truck every time I buy 4 tires. The cost savings is a myth unless you think people are out there throwing away their brand new spare every time they need tires?

For this to be true, you need to wear out two sets of tires, minimum, before the spare ages out. 6 years is about the max for tires. So if you need new tires every 3 years, sure, you can keep the spare through two sets, and for your third set, buy 5 tires.

That's never happened to me. Most people don't go through tires that quickly so they have to buy 5 tires regardless.

 

[Zandcwhite]

For this to be true, you need to wear out two sets of tires, minimum, before the spare ages out. 6 years is about the max for tires. So if you need new tires every 3 years, sure, you can keep the spare through two sets, and for your third set, buy 5 tires.

That's never happened to me. Most people don't go through tires that quickly so they have to buy 5 tires regardless.

I'm lucky if I get 2 years, but we wheel all over the country and our AZ property is ~540 miles from our house so we see more miles than most. I also don't buy that tires age out at 6 years as most trucks and cars never use their spare and the average vehicle on the road is something like 13 years old. Have you ever replaced the donut spare in the trunk? I know I haven't.

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