multicam
Well-Known Member
I skimmed this thread and may have missed it but I didn’t see anyone mention the center cap that isn’t on your spare. Unless you buy an extra one and keep it in your glove box or whatever, you’ll have to take it off the tire destined for the spare location during a 5 tire rotation (or go without it on one tire). Mild inconvenience.
As far as the age-old 4 vs. 5 tire question, as far as I’m concerned it’s not even worthy of debate- 5 tire rotation is objectively better. Old Jeeper, I’m not trying to be disrespectful to you or your dad but I was raised being told “don’t accept ‘we’ve always done it that way’ as a reason to keep doing something. Think critically and decide for yourself. Maybe the way we’ve always done things doesn’t actually make sense.” [Edit: I believe a 4 tire rotation makes sense the vast majority of the time for most consumers and most cars, but we’re talking about jeeps with a full size spare here.]
The argument that the tire manufacturers want you to do five tire rotations because they make more money is patently false. Consider two hypothetical scenarios:
1. I drive my jeep for 1,000,000 miles. During that time I exclusively use BFG KO2’s. If I do 5 tire rotations, I’ll replace them less often- by the time I hit a million miles each of the tires I spent money on will end up being used for roughly the same number of miles each (let’s say 35k miles each) meaning I got my money’s worth out of each tire. If I do 4 tire rotations, I’ll still get 35k out of each tire but that spare that I paid for as part of the initial cost of the jeep will get zero miles put on it. Oh and by the way, I’ll have to replace it at some point- with another spare that I’ll pay for but put zero miles on. That’s a waste. Using the spare means I’m putting my dollars to use vs. just having my dollars sit on my rear tailgate.
2. Let’s say I decide I don’t like my 33” KO2’s and on my second set of tires for my new jeep I buy 35” KO2’s. If I do four tire rotations that will happen at 35k miles; if I do five tire rotations it’ll happen at 42k or whatever (again, hypothetical numbers). Do you think BFGoodrich wants me to replace my tires every 35k or 42k miles? (I’m stepping up to larger tires so I’m replacing my spare as well, whether or not I used it).
In either scenario it boils down to getting the most use out of each tire on your jeep, including the spare.
Four tire rotations on a Wrangler only make sense if you delete your spare or don’t care if your spare doesn’t match your other tires (like having a stock spare when you’ve upgraded to 35’s or 37’s).
As far as the age-old 4 vs. 5 tire question, as far as I’m concerned it’s not even worthy of debate- 5 tire rotation is objectively better. Old Jeeper, I’m not trying to be disrespectful to you or your dad but I was raised being told “don’t accept ‘we’ve always done it that way’ as a reason to keep doing something. Think critically and decide for yourself. Maybe the way we’ve always done things doesn’t actually make sense.” [Edit: I believe a 4 tire rotation makes sense the vast majority of the time for most consumers and most cars, but we’re talking about jeeps with a full size spare here.]
The argument that the tire manufacturers want you to do five tire rotations because they make more money is patently false. Consider two hypothetical scenarios:
1. I drive my jeep for 1,000,000 miles. During that time I exclusively use BFG KO2’s. If I do 5 tire rotations, I’ll replace them less often- by the time I hit a million miles each of the tires I spent money on will end up being used for roughly the same number of miles each (let’s say 35k miles each) meaning I got my money’s worth out of each tire. If I do 4 tire rotations, I’ll still get 35k out of each tire but that spare that I paid for as part of the initial cost of the jeep will get zero miles put on it. Oh and by the way, I’ll have to replace it at some point- with another spare that I’ll pay for but put zero miles on. That’s a waste. Using the spare means I’m putting my dollars to use vs. just having my dollars sit on my rear tailgate.
2. Let’s say I decide I don’t like my 33” KO2’s and on my second set of tires for my new jeep I buy 35” KO2’s. If I do four tire rotations that will happen at 35k miles; if I do five tire rotations it’ll happen at 42k or whatever (again, hypothetical numbers). Do you think BFGoodrich wants me to replace my tires every 35k or 42k miles? (I’m stepping up to larger tires so I’m replacing my spare as well, whether or not I used it).
In either scenario it boils down to getting the most use out of each tire on your jeep, including the spare.
Four tire rotations on a Wrangler only make sense if you delete your spare or don’t care if your spare doesn’t match your other tires (like having a stock spare when you’ve upgraded to 35’s or 37’s).
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