Trailer vs Seat delete

[wibornz]

I bought my slide through DFG Offroad. They were a great company to work with. My slide was about about $250. I could not hardly buy the stuff to make it for that.

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[OffroadCalling77]

And this is why I set up a basecamp. I have no desire to pull the camper on level 5+ trails. Heck I don't even want the back of the Jeep loaded down with gear doing off chamber trails and such. I also don't have any real time constraints, so it is no big deal for me to drop the camper, go explore and come back to the camper. I will pull mine down the trail, a trail, not a obstacle course. For instance, drop the camper at the beginning of Top of the World trail, run the trail, and pick up the camper when I am done.

Exactly what I plan to do as well. How do you secure the trailer from being stolen at base camp? I know unlikely, but at 29K I just can’t risk it.

 

[OffroadCalling77]

I also replaced the back part with wood. My fridge slide is held in with six lag screws. it take less than a minute to remove the fridge slide with a cordless drill or cordless impact driver with a socket. I rarely remove the fridge slide though. I will remove the fridge and leave the slide in the back.

Silly question. Where are the lag screws being screwed into? This is probably what I plan to do as well.

 

[brewski]

I definitely think there’s specific trips one might plan in advance where going without a trailer would be ideal for the type of wheeling planned. For most of the camping and off roading my wife and I will do, I’m hoping it will just make it easier for us to get out more and enjoy nature. Less prep and tear down. Prior, during and after the trip

I really like a trailer (I have 3 kids, a wife and dog so no room inside). I like that I can dump the trailer and go play in base camp type trips. For instance on the solar eclipse trip I did, 3 of us ground tenters were able to leave camp and go explore w/o having to worry about losing our camping spot. The other 4 vehicles in a group had to hang around camp for days (all had RTTs) and back in the heat. I find the trailer is great in most cases. Some more technical trails I am not comfy doing blindly w/o pre-running them knowing they have some major obstacles or my biggest issue super tight switch backs. I would take a trailer down Black Bear Pass if it was legal to do so, but there are some trails in UT near Moab that have such tight switchbacks that a 2door is doing a 5pt turn to get around them. Now imagine having to tow a trailer around that... you don't because it will tip over because the wheels will take too tight of a line. So here I have to jack it up and push the trailer over using hi-lifts to shift the tire line over so it doesn't cut too tight of a line around the switchback. I've done this once and will not do it again. it took way too long to get around switchbacks and takes away the joy. These trails are not hard in a jeep, just tight (like black bear pass in CO), but with a trailer they become extremely challenging.

And this is why I set up a basecamp. I have no desire to pull the camper on level 5+ trails. Heck I don't even want the back of the Jeep loaded down with gear doing off chamber trails and such. I also don't have any real time constraints, so it is no big deal for me to drop the camper, go explore and come back to the camper. I will pull mine down the trail, a trail, not a obstacle course. For instance, drop the camper at the beginning of Top of the World trail, run the trail, and pick up the camper when I am done.

A trailer isn't a bad thing when it comes to a base camp and day wheeling. Things like going to moab or location like that where you do day trips is nothing to be concerned about with trailer. But when you are doing nomad travel that you are going from A to B and it isn't something like a Backcountry Discovery Route (BDR) then it can pose some issues. While it is not common that trails have ridiculously tight switch backs, they do come about, especially in places like UT where a ton of jeep go to play. Sometimes in forests, especially in the PNW, you can get a narrow trail on the side of a mountain where there is are multiple trees that have fallen down making you have to turn around or once I came across a fresh mud slide in CO where you have to reverse a mile or two on a narrow trail until you can get to a turn around spot. While these are manageable, if you are not confident with your trailer reversing they can quickly get you into a dangerous situation. These are the places where people need to understand a trailer can be a major crutch. But having a ton of gear on your roof is bad too, that weight can be a bad thing on more technical or offcamber locations.

 

[OffroadCalling77]

I really like a trailer (I have 3 kids, a wife and dog so no room inside). I like that I can dump the trailer and go play in base camp type trips. For instance on the solar eclipse trip I did, 3 of us ground tenters were able to leave camp and go explore w/o having to worry about losing our camping spot. The other 4 vehicles in a group had to hang around camp for days (all had RTTs) and back in the heat. I find the trailer is great in most cases. Some more technical trails I am not comfy doing blindly w/o pre-running them knowing they have some major obstacles or my biggest issue super tight switch backs. I would take a trailer down Black Bear Pass if it was legal to do so, but there are some trails in UT near Moab that have such tight switchbacks that a 2door is doing a 5pt turn to get around them. Now imagine having to tow a trailer around that... you don't because it will tip over because the wheels will take too tight of a line. So here I have to jack it up and push the trailer over using hi-lifts to shift the tire line over so it doesn't cut too tight of a line around the switchback. I've done this once and will not do it again. it took way too long to get around switchbacks and takes away the joy. These trails are not hard in a jeep, just tight (like black bear pass in CO), but with a trailer they become extremely challenging.


A trailer isn't a bad thing when it comes to a base camp and day wheeling. Things like going to moab or location like that where you do day trips is nothing to be concerned about with trailer. But when you are doing nomad travel that you are going from A to B and it isn't something like a Backcountry Discovery Route (BDR) then it can pose some issues. While it is not common that trails have ridiculously tight switch backs, they do come about, especially in places like UT where a ton of jeep go to play. Sometimes in forests, especially in the PNW, you can get a narrow trail on the side of a mountain where there is are multiple trees that have fallen down making you have to turn around or once I came across a fresh mud slide in CO where you have to reverse a mile or two on a narrow trail until you can get to a turn around spot. While these are manageable, if you are not confident with your trailer reversing they can quickly get you into a dangerous situation. These are the places where people need to understand a trailer can be a major crutch. But having a ton of gear on your roof is bad too, that weight can be a bad thing on more technical or offcamber locations.

Makes sense. Always a draw back and an advantage to a setup. Really excited to pick mine up in September.

 

[wibornz]

Silly question. Where are the lag screws being screwed into? This is probably what I plan to do as well.

I removed the stock Jeep stuff in the back and put plywood in the back.

You can see in this pic that the fridge slide is on painted plywood with the stock Jeep deck removed.

 

[wibornz]

Exactly what I plan to do as well. How do you secure the trailer from being stolen at base camp? I know unlikely, but at 29K I just can’t risk it.

I put on a lock and roll hitch. While everyone has a standard 2in ball on their hitch, there are probably not many that have this hitch in their receiver.

This is what the trailer side looks like. I think it would be difficult to pull the camper away without the correct hitch receiver.

 

[OffroadCalling77]

I put on a lock and roll hitch. While everyone has a standard 2in ball on their hitch, there are probably not many that have this hitch in their receiver.

This is what the trailer side looks like. I think it would be difficult to pull the camper away without the correct hitch receiver.

Yeah my trailer comes with a Max Coupler but I’m still researching ways of securing it better. I have a few ideas.

 

[Will]

Yeah my trailer comes with a Max Coupler but I’m still researching ways of securing it better. I have a few ideas.

If your trailer has a front receiver you can pull the Max Coupler out of the trailer and reinsert a locking pin. That’s what I do with mine. That way there’s no hitch to hitch to (in the unlikely event that someone is riding around with a Max Coupler setup looking to steal a trailer).

 

[Will]

Or you could just put a locking pin through the trailer side of the coupler when you drop it.

 

[OffroadCalling77]

Or you could just put a locking pin through the trailer side of the coupler when you drop it.

I think that’s what I plan to do. I mean someone will have to break that. Tear down camp and possibly get through a boot on the tire. Thinking of leaving music or something playing in the RTT as well. I don’t want to be paranoid but I also don’t want to lose my trailer. Ultimately I’ll insure against theft too.

 

[wibornz]

I think that’s what I plan to do. I mean someone will have to break that. Tear down camp and possibly get through a boot on the tire. Thinking of leaving music or something playing in the RTT as well. I don’t want to be paranoid but I also don’t want to lose my trailer. Ultimately I’ll insure against theft too.

I never worry about it. The kind of people that steal are usually dope addicts and they have to walk way to far to steal my stuff from a basecamp. People that go out and wheel and camp are if anything a thief of opportunity. If they are out wheeling and camping like you are, they most likely already have all the same stuff you have.

 

[FLTrailRider]

Was trying to decide to go with AAL or a trailer. Decided on a trailer. I’m going with a Turtleback Getaway trailer, fully spec’d with the ikon suspension system. Should be ready first week of September.

I simply don’t want any camping stuff in or on top of my Jeep when I’m driving to work each day or simply commuting. All items are pretty much ready to go, hook up and leave. To me, it’s the most ideal setup.

Just an FYI this was posted yesterday and you may want to check with him/her on how to not make the same mistakes...

https://www.jlwranglerforums.com/fo...xpedition-purchasing-experience-review.75590/

 

[OffroadCalling77]

Just an FYI this was posted yesterday and you may want to check with him/her on how to not make the same mistakes...

https://www.jlwranglerforums.com/fo...xpedition-purchasing-experience-review.75590/

Oh yes we have already been in talks for a few weeks now thank you though. Working with TB as well.

 

[Mattyp1214]

Just an FYI this was posted yesterday and you may want to check with him/her on how to not make the same mistakes...

https://www.jlwranglerforums.com/fo...xpedition-purchasing-experience-review.75590/

Too much money to have issues like that. I’ve decided to go AAL eventually. Installing their dual battery and arb system soon.

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