Stock Height

[Monastero]

Hello,
I have one easy question because I really don’t know much about the JL jeeps.

I know the fenders on a Rubicon have more clearance.

However my question is, does a stock 2024 2dr Sport S have the same suspension height as a stock 2024 2dr Rubicon?

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[azwjowner]

Many will tell you no, but I have confirmed that my 2-door Sport has the same front springs as a 2-door Rubicon. (The Rubicon had different rear numbers, but it had a tow package that I don't have.)

 

[Avi8or]

I have a 23 Sport S but I put 2 door rubicon springs on mine from a 22 and it came up 3/4”.

 

[Zandcwhite]

Stock springs aren't great no matter what they come off of. The spring numbers are more determined by option than model. A 2dr hard top sport s 2.0t will likely have a heavier spring than a soft top 2dr Rubicon base manual v6 as the top, trans, and engine options all weigh more. The issue is conflated as nobody talks options they talk models. That's not where the biggest difference lies in my opinion. If you want a lift, why but stock parts and hope it gets you what you want? If you feel the stock springs are too light like i did, buy better ones. If you just want 1", buy a 1" spacer. The idea that stock parts are better than aftermarket or a 1" spacer will void your warranty but swapping stock parts around won't is false. All the stock shocks have short travel. The rubicon shocks are a little better than the sport/Sahara, but still far from good. Unless they are free, they aren't worth the effort in my opinion.

 

[Monastero]

I have a 23 Sport S but I put 2 door rubicon springs on mine from a 22 and it came up 3/4”.

What engine do you have in your 23 Sport?

 

[azwjowner]

Stock springs aren't great no matter what they come off of. The spring numbers are more determined by option than model. A 2dr hard top sport s 2.0t will likely have a heavier spring than a soft top 2dr Rubicon base manual v6 as the top, trans, and engine options all weigh more. The issue is conflated as nobody talks options they talk models. That's not where the biggest difference lies in my opinion. If you want a lift, why but stock parts and hope it gets you what you want? If you feel the stock springs are too light like i did, buy better ones. If you just want 1", buy a 1" spacer. The idea that stock parts are better than aftermarket or a 1" spacer will void your warranty but swapping stock parts around won't is false. All the stock shocks have short travel. The rubicon shocks are a little better than the sport/Sahara, but still far from good. Unless they are free, they aren't worth the effort in my opinion.

Exactly. The lift that people get from Rubicon springs is because they are putting springs from heavier optioned Jeeps. I wanted a fixed amount of lift without changing the ride, so once I saw that an equivalent Rubicon optioned to my Sport had the same springs, I just purchased spacers instead.

 

[Monastero]

Stock springs aren't great no matter what they come off of. The spring numbers are more determined by option than model. A 2dr hard top sport s 2.0t will likely have a heavier spring than a soft top 2dr Rubicon base manual v6 as the top, trans, and engine options all weigh more. The issue is conflated as nobody talks options they talk models. That's not where the biggest difference lies in my opinion. If you want a lift, why but stock parts and hope it gets you what you want? If you feel the stock springs are too light like i did, buy better ones. If you just want 1", buy a 1" spacer. The idea that stock parts are better than aftermarket or a 1" spacer will void your warranty but swapping stock parts around won't is false. All the stock shocks have short travel. The rubicon shocks are a little better than the sport/Sahara, but still far from good. Unless they are free, they aren't worth the effort in my opinion.

I see, good info. Especially because I may change the front bumper on my Sport. It has the 2.0 engine. Hopefully I have the stronger springs so it don’t sag.

 

[AnnDee4444]

I have confirmed that my 2-door Sport has the same front springs as a 2-door Rubicon. (The Rubicon had different rear numbers, but it had a tow package that I don't have.)

What were the numbers, and does your Sport have a hardtop?

The lift that people get from Rubicon springs is because they are putting springs from heavier optioned Jeeps.

It's more complicated than that. I have JLUR front springs on my similarly equipped JLR (about 1/2" lift). The spring rate is softer (which I don't like). They were free.

 

[azwjowner]

What were the numbers, and does your Sport have a hardtop?

I already submitted them to you months ago and you added them to the chart! Yes, I have a hardtop. Manual transmission might have something do with it.

 

[AnnDee4444]

I already submitted them to you months ago and you added them to the chart! Yes, I have a hardtop. Manual transmission might have something do with it.

Sorry... I haven't been keeping track of who submitted what.

 

[Avi8or]

What engine do you have in your 23 Sport?

I have a 2023 Sport S 2 door with hardtop and 2.0l. The rubicon 2 door donor had a hard top too but I do not know what motor.

 

[Merc]

I own a 2021 2 door Willys 6MT with a hardtop. I was given for free the springs, shocks, links, and control arms off a 2022 4 door JLUR XR fully loaded etorque that comes stock with 35s. Below are my measurements. I did add a 1 inch spacer in the front due to the rack from my winch and aftermarket steel bumper.

Ground clearance
Stock: 10.8"
Add on suspension and 35s: 15"

Front wheels
Stock: 35 1/2"
Add ons and 35s: 40 1/8"

Rear wheels
Stock: 36"
Add ons and 35s: 40 1/2"

The 35s added at least an 1" from the stock 32s that Willys' come with.

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