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So I called the shop and he said I don't need to regear and that a $300 throttle enhancer should fix any sluggishness?
Total bullshit. I’ve been exactly where you are and tried that route in the form of a hikeit X9. True that it impressively cures the throttle lag, but it doesnt adress the slugishness and frustrating constant gear hunting.

Regearing is the most satisfying upgrade I’ve ever done on my Jeep moving up in tire size. It brings the total satisfaction of having a Jeep look killer and drive as well as if I had never done anything to it.

It is a feeling that needs to be experienced to appreciate.

Been driving Jeeps forever and this current one is the first I get regeared and I feel stupid to have self blindly negate needing it on my previous Jeeps or even on this one here no later than last year.
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Total bullshit. I’ve been exactly where you are and tried that route in the form of a hikeit X9. True that it impressively cures the throttle lag, but it doesnt adress the slugishness and frustrating constant gear hunting.

Regearing is the most satisfying upgrade I’ve ever done on my Jeep moving up in tire size. It brings the total satisfaction of having a Jeep look killer and drive as well as if I had never done anything to it.

It is a feeling that needs to be experienced to appreciate.

Been driving Jeeps forever and this current one is the first I get regeared and I feel stupid to have self blindly negate needing it on my previous Jeeps or even on this one here no later than last year.
It’s weird that your opinion is based on experience?
 
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Total bullshit. I’ve been exactly where you are and tried that route in the form of a hikeit X9. True that it impressively cures the throttle lag, but it doesnt adress the slugishness and frustrating constant gear hunting.

Regearing is the most satisfying upgrade I’ve ever done on my Jeep moving up in tire size. It brings the total satisfaction of having a Jeep look killer and drive as well as if I had never done anything to it.

It is a feeling that needs to be experienced to appreciate.

Been driving Jeeps forever and this current one is the first I get regeared and I feel stupid to have self blindly negate needing it on my previous Jeeps or even on this one here no later than last year.

That seems to be the common idea here. To regear, not sure why this shop would steer me away from a $2800 gain for them. Doesn't make sense to me.
 

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That seems to be the common idea here. To regear, not sure why this shop would steer me away from a $2800 gain for them. Doesn't make sense to me.
Maybe the guy is a billionaire just using his shop as a hobby.
 

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That seems to be the common idea here. To regear, not sure why this shop would steer me away from a $2800 gain for them. Doesn't make sense to me.
Meh, the labor on the regear is around half that and it’s an all-day to day-and-a-half job with tons of liability. The throttle controller is easy money out the door and they know you’ll probably still be back for the regear?
 

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There, I fixed it.
Honestly, both are increased in each gear due to being in a higher RPM for any given transmission gear. Horsepower = Torque * RPM / 5252, handy formula, and it's important to remember that torque is viewed as the capacity to do work while horsepower is the speed at which work is done. But, I intended it more as a direct nod to how gearing is a multiplication of torque at the axles and this aids in resisting the reduction in speed due to hills and such.
 

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That seems to be the common idea here. To regear, not sure why this shop would steer me away from a $2800 gain for them. Doesn't make sense to me.
Maybe his staff that would normally do the job has left him, so he’d rather sell a throttle controller and still sell you something, than admit he cant currently do it and see you walk away to his competition?‍♂

But I’ve been through the same locally. Guy was telling me that it was throwing money away. Holly mother of god was he way back in the left field. I’m telling you, it totally transformed my Jeep, no less.
 
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Maybe his staff that would normally do the job has left him, so he’d rather sell a throttle controller and still sell you something, than admit he cant currently do it and see you walk away to his competition?‍♂

But I’ve been through the same locally. Guy was telling me that it was throwing money away. Holly mother of god was he way back in the left field. I’m telling you, it totally transformed my Jeeps, no less.

It's a big shop but who knows. It definitely sounds like regearing would fix all the "issues". What year and engine are you running?
 

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It's a big shop but who knows. It definitely sounds like regearing would fix all the "issues". What year and engine are you running?
Then maybe Word302 is spot-on.

He knows he’ll see you again and wants to maximize his sales.

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Honestly, both are increased in each gear due to being in a higher RPM for any given transmission gear. Horsepower = Torque * RPM / 5252, handy formula, and it's important to remember that torque is viewed as the capacity to do work while horsepower is the speed at which work is done. But, I intended it more as a direct nod to how gearing is a multiplication of torque at the axles and this aids in resisting the reduction in speed due to hills and such.
I would agree both are increased, given the example at such low rpm.

I was just nit picking your use of torque when you made reference to work (keeping things moving down the road). ;)

Just for clarity to the layperson, cause I know Remorseless knows, torque is a force measurement, irrespective of movement. Think torque wrench. Horsepower is force combined with movement a specific distance, in a specific time, a.k.a. "work". We can change gear ratios in a low horsepower vehicle, like a tractor, so that we can pull a train car with it, albeit very slowly. If we want to make it move faster, we need more horsepower.
 

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I would agree both are increased, given the example at such low rpm.

I was just nit picking your use of torque when you made reference to work (keeping things moving down the road). ;)

Just for clarity to the layperson, cause I know Remorseless knows, torque is a force measurement, irrespective of movement. Think torque wrench. Horsepower is force combined with movement a specific distance, in a specific time, a.k.a. "work". We can change gear ratios in a low horsepower vehicle, like a tractor, so that we can pull a train car with it, albeit very slowly. If we want to make it move faster, we need more horsepower.
I support high horsepower and high torque engines in tractors. Particularly if said tractor is put on display pulling a large object at an establishment that also serves beer.
 

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If it was my Jeep I would regear. I went from 3.73 gears to 4.56 gears in my TJ with 33” tires and it made a big difference in my daily driving.
 

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So I called the shop and he said I don't need to regear and that a $300 throttle enhancer should fix any sluggishness?
You need to find a better shop.

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