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Diesel and European. One is GM approved and one Mercedes approved. Not typical oils for American gasoline passenger cars.
Actually "Mobil 1 ESP Formula 0W-40 has the General Motors Service Fill dexos2™ approval, which is required for all 2010 and onward new GM/Opel/Vauxhall/Chevrolet Diesel and Gasoline models." Both are oils sold in America for cars sold in America and not API certified. Meet the criteria challenged. I can find more if you like.
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Both are oils sold in America for cars sold in America and not API certified. Meet the criteria challenged. I can find more if you like.
Lol, I'm sure you could. How about you go and find them all and then make a nice list?
 

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Lol, I'm sure you could. How about you go and find them all and then make a nice list?
"Do tell what other MAJOR companies offer oil that is not API certified" I think I more than met the challenge.
 

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"Do tell what other MAJOR companies offer oil that is not API certified" I think I more than met the challenge.
I'll give you the points for that. You did indeed.
 

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Flat out BS. You are attempting to twist something to validate your point. Show me any reputable source that proves that major oil manufacturers have BOTTLED oils (since Amsoil does not sell bulk oil--let us keep this apples to apples) that have failed API certification.

Also post the policies that were changed as a result of this.
AMSOIL sells most oils in 275 gallon totes. New chain of custody for bulk oils https://www.api.org/products-and-services/motor-oil-matters . Here is a report in which off the shelf BOTTLED API certified Mobil failed an API certification test. https://www.noln.net/articles/3063-putting-a-failed-engine-test-under-the-microscope and https://rotella.shell.com/en_us/media/2018/volvot13-test-results.html
 
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Do it. This thread sucks. Poor OP.
Meh. He got his answers early on. There's been plenty of good info in it, though. I realized thanks to @2020Sport that the actual language in the owners manual says MS6395 certified oil is "recommended" and that it doesn't say "required," as I had previously believed. That's good to know as I like to run Mobil 1 most of the time.
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