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Bay Jeep in Panama City and Hill Kelly in Pensacola will not go a dollar below MSRP. Is anyone seeing this anywhere else?

Bay Jeep has had 4 JLs for over a month and they have not moved. They don’t seem like they are in a hurry to sell them.
They might not be in a hurry--particularly if they have JKs to still move.

Dealerships--and I say this matter of factly--not condescendingly--are seeking to "capture the market."

Perhaps an example of "capturing the market" is owed:

Nike comes out with their greatest design of basketball sneaker. It's a collaborative effort that the finest of the game's places are getting huge sums to endorse. It costs Nike, say, $74 dollars a pair to produce, and is introduced to the market at a suggested retail price of $332.

...and some buy it. They want it that bad, or they have the money, etc. Most don't. In time the sneaker comes down in price as newer models dethrone it. In a year it's at $157--still a handsome profit for Nike.

This model maximizes profit. The item isn't sold at one high price at which few buyers nibble, even though many people would buy it for less at what is still a substantial profit to Nike. Nor is it initially offered at $157, losing profit on all those who would have gone as high as $332 initially.

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The internet and the reduced cost of transportation in inflation adjusted dollars, particularly airline travel, have been paradigm shifters for the purpose of buying a new car. The internet makes competition among dealers far greater than the 1 hour driving distance of dealers our parents used, along with their telephone. It also allows people to do a lot of research on features, capabilities, and price before ever stepping into the showroom, where many salespeople have become glorified waiters and waitresses (no offense to them intended) for merely filling in the order form of the educated consumer.

Shopping around boils down to the cost savings of dealing with a dealer miles away, in terms of the cost of getting there, and driving home, and the time involved.

Of course this isn't the model for all of us. Some feel strongly about buying locally. Some feel strongly about relationships--nice salespeople--being educated by the salesperson. And that's all good. But such things come at a price.

Many of us here though know more than anyone at the dealership, where some salesperson who has been there 3 months, and will leave in 3 months, and can barely pick out a Wrangler from a Cherokee, presents a fool's paradise to those who feel that they are establishing a relationship with a dealer.

The internet has allowed the consumer the right to shop around for the best price in some parts too. It's bad enough that some gear must be purchased only from a dealer (who enjoys monopsonistic--a supplier of one) power over the consumer. Internet competition at least has helped to level the playing field by allowing me to buy the same part from a dealer in the middle of nowhere U.S., and including shipping, send it to me at much less cost that I'd incur visiting the local dealer.
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Sorry for the radio silence. I got my JL and was a little distracted. The $500 Voucher is the "Golden Ticket". Search the Forum since there is a ton of discussion here. Most expire tomorrow. I would still register your email on Jeep.com to receive info from them. Hopefully they will send out another round of vouchers. And by the way, the new JL is everything I wanted it to be. After 5 days of driving, I look for reasons to go drive. (Fully loaded Granite Rubi)
 

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fortunately, as you can see here, my local el paso dealer is NOT one of those evil dealers that expect to get paid MSRP..... no, they expect $2000 more for the special option package of "adjusted market value"

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fortunately, as you can see here, my local el paso dealer is NOT one of those evil dealers that expect to get paid MSRP..... no, they expect $2000 more for the special option package of "adjusted market value"

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Ridiculous
 

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Bay Jeep in Panama City and Hill Kelly in Pensacola will not go a dollar below MSRP. Is anyone seeing this anywhere else?

Bay Jeep has had 4 JLs for over a month and they have not moved. They don’t seem like they are in a hurry to sell them.
The dealership where I live is like that. I'm on an island with no other choice but them... if I fly to another island I'll still have to pay extra shipping and airfare. Take it or leave it attitude sucks. I have the tread lightly discount, and the dealer told me lucky that I have that.
 

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fortunately, as you can see here, my local el paso dealer is NOT one of those evil dealers that expect to get paid MSRP..... no, they expect $2000 more for the special option package of "adjusted market value"

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That's very common here in Hawaii. You'll see the prices on the dealers webpage, and then you go to the lot and the window has the "extra" sticker on it.
 

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If your looking for a great deal, You owe it to your self to get in contact with our Jeep specialist Roland! He will do everything he can to take care of you. Also ask him about our courtesy life time power-train warranty. He can be reached at the following.
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Also please provide your zip code as he will need that to get pricing for everyone, I promise it will be worth your time.

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I'm interested, will shoot an email shortly. From CA near San Francisco.
 

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I spoke to a few dealers that weren't very interested in making a deal. I didn't get 5% below invoice. I got around 3% below if you make the fees equal to Koons. I'm in SC. Flying to VA and driving hundreds of miles home wasn't worth it.

I used to live up the road from you in Dothan AL. I ended up having to drive to ATL to get a deal on my JK.
Drew, If you don't mind me asking, who in ATL did you end up going through. I'm in upstate SC as well and have been speaking all the local guys and a few in NC but haven't looked into GA yet. Koons is an option and so far the best quote I've gotten but I don't really want to fly to VA if I can get close locally.
 

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fortunately, as you can see here, my local el paso dealer is NOT one of those evil dealers that expect to get paid MSRP..... no, they expect $2000 more for the special option package of "adjusted market value"

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I could make a good living buying Jeeps up here and selling them in ElPaso... not a bad life.
 

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Drew, If you don't mind me asking, who in ATL did you end up going through. I'm in upstate SC as well and have been speaking all the local guys and a few in NC but haven't looked into GA yet. Koons is an option and so far the best quote I've gotten but I don't really want to fly to VA if I can get close locally.
Monti @ Ed Voyles. That was back in 2012 though. They didn't show any interest going -5% on a JL. I ordered a JL with Big O in Greenville (-2%) but had to walk away when they wouldn't cover the March 1st price increase. I guess I'm just going to wait for a 2019.
 

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Monti @ Ed Voyles. That was back in 2012 though. They didn't show any interest going -5% on a JL. I ordered a JL with Big O in Greenville (-2%) but had to walk away when they wouldn't cover the March 1st price increase. I guess I'm just going to wait for a 2019.
Thanks Drew. We got similar from Big O and a little better from McKinney. Still considering the Koons deal though. If nothing else they have been substantially easier to deal with than any other dealer I've spoken to.
 

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Went to two local dealerships (North California), they want MSRP + Dealer Markup. On JL the markup is $7000. So $52k MSRP + $7k markup. Of course will not buy from them. But that's what's going on at my local dealerships. You can negotiate on markup to some extent. Just FYI.
 

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Went to two local dealerships (North California), they want MSRP + Dealer Markup. On JL the markup is $7000. So $52k MSRP + $7k markup. Of course will not buy from them. But that's what's going on at my local dealerships. You can negotiate on markup to some extent. Just FYI.
Anyone paying dealer markup in the lower 48 is a fool. Tell them to fuck off and take your business elsewhere. No one deserves to be a slave to a building selling cars.

These types of dealers are either Retarded, capital R, or have some stupid, deep-pocketed customers.
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