Only 3 Options for C Load in 37s?

[TX_Ovrlnd]

After doing research I am going to go with a 17 wheel diameter to keep my possibilities open since there definitely seems to be more choices for that size. Here are my top three choices right now. I know they’re all very different tires and any feedback would be greatly appreciated!

You would have to go up to 20's for more options like the 17 has, but you will get a lot of crap for it on this forum (for good reason when concerned with soaking up bumps). 17s are more ideal for any offroading. Your choices are all good, I really enjoyed my Coopers when I had my truck. (From your other thread) If you're needing better stopping power, keep in mind rolling mass.

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[Newbalewb]

Interesting. Isn’t factory 17”.

Yeah it is. Caliper is kinda close. This is from the 392 group with stock rims.

Saying all that I’d probably still stick with 17” since it’s more common and has more options.

 

[jessedacri]

I'd recommend KM3s or possibly the Coopers you listed. KO2s are a nice AT but in my eyes they start to look weird like an oversized road tire when you get to the sizes over 37. I see you're in SoCal - we live in an incredible area for wheeling and I think you'd be more than justified in running a mean MT if you're planning on hitting trails somewhat often. As for Nittos, know that they and Toyos run the heaviest size-for-size compared to other ATs or MTs in the same class. I like to watch the total weight of my wheel/tire setup because it's less stress on the axle and better drivability and MPGs with a lower unsprung weight. The Patagonia in 35" load range D is only 67lbs and my Fifteen52 wheels are 29lbs so it's one of the lighter MT setups I could have gone with. A Nitto Trail Grappler in the same size is 79.9lbs.

There's mixed reviews on the tires I run but I really do recommend the Milestar Patagonia MT if you like the look. They're quieter on road than any other MT but look nice and aggressive - I've got like 23k miles of 50% highway and 50% hard wheeling on them and they have tons of tread left. Only downside is you must run them at above 37 psi on-road for proper wear which makes them a tad stiffer than other tires.

Mine are 35s on a 2 door but you get the idea:

 

[blnewt]

Of those 3 tires the Coopers FTW! Really depends what you're wanting though. If you want aggressive tires that look beastly and perform well in tough terrain the STTs hands down. If you want a quieter tire that performs well especially in colder temps and last the longest the BFGs get the nod. IMO you're going to have these tires for a long time, might as well get the beasts!
Like I mentioned a few posts back, just look at @wibornz and what his crew have done (along w/ the Rubicon trail) been to hell & back & back again and still has tons of tread left on those STTs.

I too currently run the Patagonias, not bad for the price I paid, not great when it gets slick & cold though.

 

[OffroadCalling77]

You would have to go up to 20's for more options like the 17 has, but you will get a lot of crap for it on this forum (for good reason when concerned with soaking up bumps). 17s are more ideal for any offroading. Your choices are all good, I really enjoyed my Coopers when I had my truck. (From your other thread) If you're needing better stopping power, keep in mind rolling mass.

Yeah 20s aren’t my thing. They’re a little too, eh… I’ll hold my that thought but im sure you know what I mean. Brakes, yes! Those are going to get replaced at the same time. I was just riding my brakes today and not happy with them at all.

Yes.
Stick with 17's.
From the tire choices you laid out, do the beast some justice and go with the Coopers, something more aggressive than KO2s...shit man you have a 392.
I run KM3s 37s and they are very nice so far for an MT.

Yeah I’m leaning towards those. I would love to see them in person to make sure they actually look larger than my BFGs, which I’m sure they do.

 

[OffroadCalling77]

I'd recommend KM3s or possibly the Coopers you listed. KO2s are a nice AT but in my eyes they start to look weird like an oversized road tire when you get to the sizes over 37. I see you're in SoCal - we live in an incredible area for wheeling and I think you'd be more than justified in running a mean MT if you're planning on hitting trails somewhat often. As for Nittos, know that they and Toyos run the heaviest size-for-size compared to other ATs or MTs in the same class. I like to watch the total weight of my wheel/tire setup because it's less stress on the axle and better drivability and MPGs with a lower unsprung weight. The Patagonia in 35" load range D is only 67lbs and my Fifteen52 wheels are 29lbs so it's one of the lighter MT setups I could have gone with. A Nitto Trail Grappler in the same size is 79.9lbs.

There's mixed reviews on the tires I run but I really do recommend the Milestar Patagonia MT if you like the look. They're quieter on road than any other MT but look nice and aggressive - I've got like 23k miles of 50% highway and 50% hard wheeling on them and they have tons of tread left. Only downside is you must run them at above 37 psi on-road for proper wear which makes them a tad stiffer than other tires.

Mine are 35s on a 2 door but you get the idea:

Never considered the way they would look over my current “37s” - that’s an excellent point. I have heard good things about the KM3s as well, but really like the look of the coopers.

Great feedback on the Milestars!

 

[OffroadCalling77]

Of those 3 tires the Coopers FTW! Really depends what you're wanting though. If you want aggressive tires that look beastly and perform well in tough terrain the STTs hands down. If you want a quieter tire that performs well especially in colder temps and last the longest the BFGs get the nod. IMO you're going to have these tires for a long time, might as well get the beasts!
Like I mentioned a few posts back, just look at @wibornz and what his crew have done (along w/ the Rubicon trail) been to hell & back & back again and still has tons of tread left on those STTs.

I too currently run the Patagonias, not bad for the price I paid, not great when it gets slick & cold though.

Yeah that’s the thing, for where I live the BFGs are perfect. I hit the Mountain snow a lot for snowboarding and do a lot of camping with my wife, which includes a lot of freeway driving, but with the lift I would like the more aggressive look and I’m trying to get out more on the weekends. Just went last Sunday. Doing Saturday morning Mountain biking and Sunday off-roading.

 

[richk225]

These are not to shabby

 

[firedude]

Very nice.

 

[richk225]

 

[OffroadCalling77]

These are not to shabby

Yeah those look great! Are those load D as well?

 

[richk225]

The 37`s are a D range BUT the 40`s are a C range

 

[OffroadCalling77]

Created a new thread with my part list: https://www.jlwranglerforums.com/forum/threads/pick-apart-my-2nd-round-of-upgrades.92050/

 

[zouch]

i think you really need to figure out what you want the rig to do first.

ATs will probably be the quietest, but get sucky when you get into the mud in The Dez.
MTs will look most gnarly (Dude! ?), but generally work poorly on the Snow and Ice you’ll be dealing with if you’re going Snowboarding.

i’d suggest if you don’t just want the coolest-looking J**p in the ditch on the side of the road on the way back from the slopes, focus on the 3PMS rating and pick the chunkiest thing that qualifies. odds are you’ll wind up with something like an ATZ P3, or some comparable hybrid’ish tire that will work perfectly fine for what you’re talking about.

personally, i don’t do as much snowy/icy these days as i do Dez and North Coast logging road mud, and chose the Mickey Thompson Baja Boss MTs for my Diesel. (Mickeys are owned and made by Cooper.) they’re D rated, and have worked very well at low pressures in the sand and slop, and ride very nicely at rated pressures on the way to and from.
looks are subjective (and not what i bought them for) but personally, i think these look OK, too.

After doing research I am going to go with a 17 wheel diameter to keep my possibilities open since there definitely seems to be more choices for that size. Here are my top three choices right now. I know they’re all very different tires and any feedback would be greatly appreciated!

 

[richk225]

Do the Mickey Thompson Baja Boss MT`s have 2 different sidewalls?
One being aggressive and the other much less aggressive looking
The Nitto/Toyo same company has a Hybrid that is not to bad looking
37x12.50x17 is a D range
38x12.50x17 is a C range

The Trail Grappler 37x12.50x17 is a D range

The TG 38x13.50x17 is a D range

The TG 40x13.50x17 is a C range

https://www.nittotire.com/light-truck-tires/ridge-grappler-light-truck-tire/


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