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We have a two and four door, both lifted on 35” bf goodrich tires, both ride fantastic on the highway (one finger on the steering wheel at 70) run ours at 37psi like a more sportier response
Both track perfectly
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I think the answer is getting a Hellwig rear sway bar. They take several weeks to get your order filled as they make them Ito order n batches. They are the best way to improve on-road handling in a Jeep. It will not be good for extreme rock crawling but it does not sound like that's something you are going to do in Florida.
 

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You probably need to add caster. Mopar lower control arms are easy and cheap.
Tracking, or, wander? Me thinks more optimal caster (mentioned above) should be considered. If you’re replacing tires to cater to highway use I’d recommend a P-metric highway all-terrain for the best ride while retaining just a little bit of tread aggressiveness for look and dirt road use.
More caster is the best place to start. And the way to get there is to install adustable front LCA's. Shoot for a little over 6 degrees caster. Although the pic below is from a JKU forum, it applies to the JL as well. Contrary to what others say, you do need an alignment from a knowledgable shop. That's what the "adjustable" is for.
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I bought my Wrangler with the idea that I’d be doing a lot of fun driving in all types of environments. Hook line and sinker, I bought into that image. I’m finding out that I drive 99.9% on road and highway mostly. I am using Falken Wildpeaks AT4’s, and while they are good, I have to constantly correct the Jeep and it’s not that compliant on the highway. I was thinking of switching out to some stock 18’s or 20’s and running just an all season stock tire. What is the best setup to make the Jeep the most highway comiant. I realize that I’m talking about a vehicle with independant suspension and offroad bones. Would 18’s or 20’s give me a better ride with less tracking? Thanks.
Justin, I don’t recall where in SW FL you are. I highly recommend you call Blake at Action Auto Center in Sarasota. Even if you are too far to take your Jeep there, Blake is a great dude and will probably give you some very solid advice.
 
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I have 15k miles on my falken at4s. 285/70/17 load range c. Keep them at 35psi cold. Stock suspension. Havent had a single issue on the highway or any road.
That’s exactly what’s on my wife’s Sahara and her’s is all over the road too, worse than mine. I always just thought that it was a “Jeep thing.” Obviously there is something that needs attention.
 

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Justin, I don’t recall where in SW FL you are. I highly recommend you call Blake at Action Auto Center in Sarasota. Even if you are too far to take your Jeep there, Blake is a great dude and will probably give you some very solid advice.
Thank you. I am in the Ft Myers area. Sarasota is not too far for me at all. I’ll give him a call in the next few days.
 

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Sorry, I was thinking solid axle, but typed Independant Suspension. I’m running 17x8.5 wheels on 255/80 Falken Wildpeak AT4W’s I have them set at 33psi cold but they warm to 36psi. I drive straight level and long. 111 miles of highway each way. I realize I’m probably stupid for buying this vehicle type for my drive, but it is such a fun one.
Not stupid. Mine is for highway 99% of the time. I love it too. I will keep it as long as I can fix anything that needs fixing.
 

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Sorry, I was thinking solid axle, but typed Independant Suspension. I’m running 17x8.5 wheels on 255/80 Falken Wildpeak AT4W’s I have them set at 33psi cold but they warm to 36psi. I drive straight level and long. 111 miles of highway each way. I realize I’m probably stupid for buying this vehicle type for my drive, but it is such a fun one.
Looks like that size AT4W only comes in an E load range. That means you are running a very heavy and stiff tire that is capable of running on a fullsize heavy duty pickup. A lighter weight tire usually helps some also.
With the same height tire, going to a larger wheel typically means less compliant. That is because you have less sidewall height to give.
Personally I would stick with the 17" rims and install an appropriately rated all-season or highway tread tires. As much as I hate to say to basically put car tires on your Jeep, that will give you the best ride.
 

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Should not be running load range E tires on a Wrangler but to each their own, dropping my tires pressure down to 31 all around has helped immensely in every way, running stock 255/70r17 MTs on stock WIllys' wheels.
 

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Speaking of tire pressure, what is an ideal on-road pressure for my tire? It’s a Load E.
For reference E load range are definitely the wrong tire for your application. They're going to be stiff as hell and really exaggerate the problem. You'd want to run them at like 25 psi, which will cause much faster wear (and a tpms warning)

Check out the factory 33s or 35s in C load range. The 392 stock tires are fantastic, probably the best on-road compliant 35s on the market. Jeep had them specially made as usually 35s don't come in C, they're normally D or above.
 

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I wouldn't have a problem running SL rated tires on a pavement princess.
 

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The drama over E rated tires is the most overrated thing I consistently see in the Jeep forums. Lower the psi. You won't see accelerated wear because the sidewalls are stiff. We run 23psi cold in the 39s on the JLUR. Rides great on road, no wandering, and they have 30k miles on them already with good tread left. The options in a 39" are so limited I had no worries about the E rating. Try 28psi cold and see how it rides.
 

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The drama over E rated tires is the most overrated thing I consistently see in the Jeep forums. Lower the psi. You won't see accelerated wear because the sidewalls are stiff. We run 23psi cold in the 39s on the JLUR. Rides great on road, no wandering, and they have 30k miles on them already with good tread left. The options in a 39" are so limited I had no worries about the E rating. Try 28psi cold and see how it rides.
I disagree, especially with a smaller tire. 39s are going to have alot more sidewall and be more compliant than a smaller tire. I ran load range E 35s on my F150s that came with 32ish(275/65R18 ) factory tires and the ride is much more harsh. You are definitely correct that you can air them way down without worrying about wear, those things last forever on lighter trucks and SUVs.

I would suggest airing them down, the mopar 2 inch lower control arms as suggested and playing with toe in.

Depending on the year and mileage on the Sahara that was mentioned the wandering could be anything from an aluminum steering box to worn steering and suspension parts.
 

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The drama over E rated tires is the most overrated thing I consistently see in the Jeep forums. Lower the psi. You won't see accelerated wear because the sidewalls are stiff. We run 23psi cold in the 39s on the JLUR. Rides great on road, no wandering, and they have 30k miles on them already with good tread left. The options in a 39" are so limited I had no worries about the E rating. Try 28psi cold and see how it rides.
I have E rated KO2's on the JLUR I recently purchased and I have tried several PSI settings from as high as 42 to as low as 28 cold where it currently has been for a week or so. The sweet spot for me has been 32 PSI cold and that's where I'm going back to. It wasn't perfect but I experienced the least amount of wandering. I also recently had the aluminum steering box upgraded and an alignment was performed as part of the job. Somethings the thing drives like my Infiniti SUV with air bag suspension (smooth and straight) and other times like a Farmall tractor. The inconsistency is frustrating at times but not the end of the world.
 

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I disagree, especially with a smaller tire. 39s are going to have alot more sidewall and be more compliant than a smaller tire. I ran load range E 35s on my F150s that came with 32ish(275/65R18 ) factory tires and the ride is much more harsh. You are definitely correct that you can air them way down without worrying about wear, those things last forever on lighter trucks and SUVs.

I would suggest airing them down, the mopar 2 inch lower control arms as suggested and playing with toe in.

Depending on the year and mileage on the Sahara that was mentioned the wandering could be anything from an aluminum steering box to worn steering and suspension parts.
The less sidewall you have to with with the stiffer it will feel at a given pressure. Airing down will still work unless you're running rubber band street tires on 24" wheels. I don't care if it's a stock size 32" tire, at 20 psi it will ride like a c rated tire at 30+ psi. There are loads charts available from must tire manufacturers and you can easily find the crossover point where your E rated tires match the c rated tires. You certainly don't need to go buy new tires to get the same ride.
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