Newbie considering used 4xe

[57chykn]

I’ve been hanging out on the forum for quite some time and have learned a ton here. I’m pretty close to pulling the trigger on a used 2021 4xe. I’m thinking used instead of new because I love the Granite Crystal Metallic and prefer body color HT. The HT is not even available to order at the moment so if I want to go this way it’s used.
I have found a few with low miles and lots of warranty left … given the challenges I’ve seen some experience with 4xe, what would you be cautious of or look for when buying used?
TIA.

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[martoaj]

Realistically, the only thing that would keep me from buying used is the reality that I could buy (or more likely, order) a brand new one and get a $7500 tax credit. 2021 4xes are still commanding $50k+ even with 5-10k miles on them ... it's worth comparing to what you can get a new one for when factoring in the tax credit.

No matter what you're buying, if you're looking at something that's only 1-2 years old, the chances you're going to get hosed are high. Typically the amount of money you save on a 1-year-old car is not really "worth it" considering the miles and wear/tear you are taking on. That just gets worse for a new model like the 4xe where there are no trucks before 2021 to help pull prices down.

4xes are so damn expensive new, I really don't see them being a good used value until they're older and actually hit some sort of depreciation curve and there are lease returns in the market as well. The inflated MSRP from new (nearly all sticker for $60k+) really hurts them. You should consider getting a regular 2.0 engine model so it at least starts with a lower MSRP.

Look at some comparable trimmed gas-only models and see the price difference before locking in on a 4xe. A 2020 or 2021 Sahara or Rubicon is likely going to come in $5-10k less than a comparable 4xe. That's a lot of money. And there will be many more to choose from with a variety of specs.

I love my 4xe, but the only reason I bought it versus a 2.0 engine Sahara is the massive tax credit that dropped the price considerably. The hybrid powertrain is not worth spending more for imo.

Outside of that, the only thing I'd check on any given used 4xe is whether the charging system and electric mode are working properly. Plug it in, make sure it charges, and make sure you can switch between drive modes including electric-only. Check the oil life and look for any signs of aggressive wear. Beyond those things, the rest of the truck is the same as any other Jeep.

 

[Industrialwrench]

I don’t think I’d buy a used electric vehicle. Batteries are too finicky and don’t last long enough even when properly cared for. That’s just me though. If you’re planning on owning it short term and will trade it in after the warranty then forget all that and buy what makes you happy.

 

[legacy_etu]

Aside from the cost considerations already mentioned (you're not getting the tax benefit) check the Carfax and make sure it isn't affected by the recall for the dying engine. In my state a dealer can't sell a vehicle with an active recall and I don't think there's a remedy out yet from Jeep to fix it.

 

[martoaj]

Aside from the cost considerations already mentioned (you're not getting the tax benefit) check the Carfax and make sure it isn't affected by the recall for the dying engine. In my state a dealer can't sell a vehicle with an active recall and I don't think there's a remedy out yet from Jeep to fix it.

There are fixes/parts available for all 3 active recalls on the 4xe -- battery fuse, loss of power, water pump leak.

 

[legacy_etu]

There are fixes/parts available for all 3 active recalls on the 4xe -- battery fuse, loss of power, water pump leak.

Good to know, thanks for the info.

 

[XX4XEXX]

We own 2 and a JT and fully agree with @martoaj. Unless your not getting hosed consider options. What's stated above is incorrect all recalls have fixes and parts available. Also you can sell recall vehicles in every state usually the dealer doesn't want to and unless the manufacturer states the recall is "stop sale" which 1 of these are.

When looking for used no matter what milage take it for a good spin hit that 50 mph mark and look for DW.

 

[legacy_etu]

We own 2 and a JT and fully agree with @martoaj. Unless your not getting hosed consider options. What's stated above is incorrect all recalls have fixes and parts available. Also you can sell recall vehicles in every state usually the dealer doesn't want to and unless the manufacturer states the recall is "stop sale" which 1 of these are.

When looking for used no matter what milage take it for a good spin hit that 50 mph mark and look for DW.

Can you quote any sources for the claim "Also you can sell recall vehicles in every state usually the dealer doesn't want to and unless the manufacturer states the recall is "stop sale" which 1 of these are."?

I'm looking for this info and the best I can find is that it is federally illegal to sell a NEW car with an open recall. However, It appears to be legal to sell a USED car with an open recall in which case I was wrong.

 

[sconrad24]

I have been looking at potentially getting a used EV and the best advice I’ve seen is to check the estimated range at full charge and compare to when new. 4xes are tough because of the ability to drive ICE or electric. If the previous owner never charged and only used gas it could affect the computers estimate. You should see an estimated range of around 24 miles on a full charge though.

 

[XX4XEXX]

Not sure on what you me by quite source on my claim I spoke on 2 topics. For the parts available we just got my Sons E back on 3 recalls 1 being coolant and 1 motor shut down "stop sale". Parts changed, program updated 1 and done. Also had rear window finally swapped out under warranty. I would assume this would depend on your dealer, state, etc but coolant connections were a simple part swap and thread lock, program was an upload.

As far as sales as mentioned unless it's a stop sale recalls happen all the time and can always be performed if purchased, remember he stated used. Also during sale of "new" recalls are performed before taking possession which means you won't go home with it but it will get done front of line usually.

Hope that helped.

Can you quote any sources for the claim "Also you can sell recall vehicles in every state usually the dealer doesn't want to and unless the manufacturer states the recall is "stop sale" which 1 of these are."?

I'm looking for this info and the best I can find is that it is federally illegal to sell a NEW car with an open recall. However, It appears to be legal to sell a USED car with an open recall in which case I was wrong.

 

[BXFXJeep]

I love my 4xe, but the only reason I bought it versus a 2.0 engine Sahara is the massive tax credit that dropped the price considerably. The hybrid powertrain is not worth spending more for imo.

No one should buy a PHEV if it does not suit their driving habits, this is the problem with government giving away taxpayer money to push cockeyed schemes.

The 4xe has massive benefits, and I'm not speaking of government largesse.

The 4xe is in no way comparable to the 2.0, 3.6, 392, or diesel.

I gave up a perfectly good 3.6 JL in mint condition for my 4xe, because the 4xe suits my needs.

I got zero government money to buy the 4xe.

 

[57chykn]

Thank you all for the help. Here’s where I landed. Found a Certified used 2021 4xe Rubicon with 8500 miles for $52k and they comped the paint protection as well.

The options include:

Body color HT
Cold weather group
Tow Package
Satin black grill
LED package
Running boards

I am a little bummed about no safety group but oh well.

I struggled to find a similar new for under $70k and could not get the body colour hard top so I would’ve had to change color choice. I like the Sting but just not as much as GCM. So I’m still $10k less than new with Tax Credit and I get the colour I want.

I drive about 12k miles/year, most in 15/20 mile chunks a few days/ week.Twice a month I commute 50 miles one way and can charge while I work. Longer trips only a few times/year so I feel it will be a great option for my driving.

Hopefully I didn’t get hosed, but It’s in great shape and I’m excited to pick it up tomorrow!
Thank you all for the information … such great resources.

Also, regarding recalls. Used cars in every state I called (6) could be sold without the recall being fixed, new could not. All recalls are now available for fix and even the Ford dealer I called to check on a different used was willing to take it to Jeep to do the recalls before I bought.
Thanks again!

 

[dcm80401]

Aside from the cost considerations already mentioned (you're not getting the tax benefit) check the Carfax and make sure it isn't affected by the recall for the dying engine. In my state a dealer can't sell a vehicle with an active recall and I don't think there's a remedy out yet from Jeep to fix it.

The fix is out.

 

[wubicon]

Pass on the 2021s and look at 22 and beyond. I have noticed most or any issues these 4xes are having are coming from the first year. Also, another user made a good point that the used prices are still 50k+, you should look into getting a new one so you can grab the tax rebate.

 

[2018JLRUSellersremorse]

No one should buy a PHEV if it does not suit their driving habits, this is the problem with government giving away taxpayer money to push cockeyed schemes.

The 4xe has massive benefits, and I'm not speaking of government largesse.

The 4xe is in no way comparable to the 2.0, 3.6, 392, or diesel.

I gave up a perfectly good 3.6 JL in mint condition for my 4xe, because the 4xe suits my needs.

I got zero government money to buy the 4xe.

You and I did the same thing. The thing I love the most is the power without premium fuel. Even on long road trips I'll take that power and 19 to 21 miles a gallon in a Wrangler all day.

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