MC game changer vs Rock Jock Pro

[word302]

We all know you’re a fan boy, but that’s my opinion on RK. I remember people having issues with their joints back in the JK days. All that being said, after talking with Roky about RK, I was all set to buy a set of their X factor arms up until this happened on their FB page. I’m the one that called them out. See below.

Well I’ve seen Metalcloak joints completely disintegrate in under a year as well. That doesn’t make me not recommend their products. Both RK and Metalcloak stand behind their products. That’s why I recommend them. The conversation you’ve posted here isn’t exactly damning. That guy could’ve easily filled the grease groove on his joints and been good to go. It’s a simple process that I’ve done on several of their joints. I’m not a fan boy, I’ve just seen first hand what all of these joints can do and the RK joints simply outperform everyone else. If that makes me a fan boy, well, guilty.

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[failsafe306]

Well I’ve seen Metalcloak joints completely disintegrate in under a year as well. That doesn’t make me not recommend their products. Both RK and Metalcloak stand behind their products. That’s why I recommend them. The conversation you’ve posted here isn’t exactly damning. That guy could’ve easily filled the grease groove on his joints and been good to go. It’s a simple process that I’ve done on several of their joints. I’m not a fan boy, I’ve just seen first hand what all of these joints can do and the RK joints simply outperform everyone else. If that makes me a fan boy, well, guilty.

How would he have known to fill the grease groove on a brand new set of links? He greased them regularly which is all he should have been expected to do.

The fact that the bushings failed didn’t bother me too much, it’s the fact that they told him to buy all new joints when the originals didn’t last a year.

 

[word302]

How would he have known to fill the grease groove on a brand new set of links? He greased them regularly which is all he should have been expected to do.

The fact that the bushings failed didn’t bother me too much, it’s the fact that they told him to buy all new joints when the originals didn’t last a year.

That’s the point you’re missing. They didn’t tell him to buy new joints. He asked if they were available to buy and that’s what he chose to do. The other option would be to fill the groove and net the same result. The X-factor joints are not just a run and gum joint like most. They require maintenance and inspections. Yes it’s unfortunate that the joints he ended up with were between iterations but they weren’t junk, they just needed 10 minutes of extra work when being rebuilt. The X-factor joints are at the bleeding edge of performance akin to a racing part. If you’re not willing to fuss with them then the adventure joints are more likely your speed. Even the adventure joints outperform the Metalcloak joints. I want the highest performing lift money can buy and I’m willing to put in the time and effort required to keep it performing at its best. Not everyone is willing to do that and I get it. Also why don’t you post the rest of that conversation where 2 reps from RK said they took care of the customer.

 

[failsafe306]

Also why don’t you post the rest of that conversation where 2 reps from RK said they took care of the customer.

You mean after the FIRST rep told him he needed to buy new joints, and after I called bullshit? They had no choice at that point ?

Point is, I explained why I chose not to gamble on RKs latest and greatest joints that solved all their old issues. Show me evidence of a duroflex joint failing prematurely and I’ll show you 10 RK threads where joints were toasted prematurely.

 

[word302]

You mean after the FIRST rep told him he needed to buy new joints, and after I called bullshit? They had no choice at that point ?

Point is, I explained why I chose not to gamble on RKs latest and greatest joints that solved all their old issues. Show me evidence of a duroflex joint failing prematurely and I’ll show you 10 RK threads where joints were toasted prematurely.

That’s just plain false man. In his OP, he states that he didn’t want to fill the grease grooves and asked if he could buy new joints. You’ve obviously got this all figured out man. Just curious, how many different manufacturer’s joints do you have experience with? I’m glad you’re happy with your lift. Metalcloak makes good stuff.

 

[failsafe306]

That’s just plain false man. In his OP, he states that he didn’t want to fill the grease grooves and asked if he could buy new joints. You’ve obviously got this all figured out man. Just curious, how many different manufacturer’s joints do you have experience with? I’m glad you’re happy with your lift. Metalcloak makes good stuff.

I really don’t know what else to say…at the end of the day, the joints he paid for didn’t last a year. Turns out that new style bushings were put in an old style housing, causing failure. He was then told he could buy new joints to replace the old failed ones. As soon as I saw the reply, I was done.

Had RK said “sorry, don’t know how that happened, give us a call and we’ll get you new joints right away” I’d probably be running RK control arms right now. I had a 2.5” Flex lift on my old JK for about a year and had no issues with it. That’s why I initially wanted RK when I was planning out a lift for the JL. Even though I kept finding stories of RK joint issues while researching my options, and I was a little uneasy about it, I still really wanted to run their kit for nostalgia sake on my new Jeep. Until that post. That’s all I really have to say about this. Have a good evening sir.

 

[c20040215]

Me reading through the comments and see "the bleeding edge of performance akin".. I was looking for "designed by NASA engineers" and "FAA certified" in the rest of the paragraph. Cracks me up.

Not sure if OP lives in rust belt. If so, think twice before getting RK products. Their powder coating is subpar. I had their trackbar relocation bracket for less than 3 years. When I removed it, it looked like it was pulled out of the Titanic.

Nothing against it but only my opinion.

 

[longfiredragon]

I have never ran MC,RK or Clayton. I have been researching lifts since I got my jeep though.

What I see, is you won't go wrong with any of the three listed. From a money standpoint I keep coming back to MC. They give you the most bang for the buck, I feel.

 

[Roky]

Me reading through the comments and see "the bleeding edge of performance akin".. I was looking for "designed by NASA engineers" and "FAA certified" in the rest of the paragraph. Cracks me up.

Not sure if OP lives in rust belt. If so, think twice before getting RK products. Their powder coating is subpar. I had their trackbar relocation bracket for less than 3 years. When I removed it, it looked like it was pulled out of the Titanic.

Nothing against it but only my opinion.

Curious why you let it get that bad, I mean even a little sanding and some rattle can goes a long way…I’m not defending RK powder coat, I’ve been using their products for many years, I’m well aware of their shortcomings….. although it’s better than it used to be…..

 

[c20040215]

Curious why you let it get that bad, I mean even a little sanding and some rattle can goes a long way…I’m not defending RK powder coat, I’ve been using their products for many years, I’m well aware of their shortcomings….. although it’s better than it used to be…..

It was tucked up above the axle. By the time the visible side showed flaking and rust, the inside was already bad. Don't get me wrong, the construction is solid and got the job done. I would have tried to keep it if I wasnt doing the rear axle truss, where RK's U bolt design interferes the truss.
I am just not impressed. Maybe they have improved it? Which is puzzling considered they are NY based company. But again, I have seen others with the same powder coat flaking and rust issues on their parts.

 

[word302]

Me reading through the comments and see "the bleeding edge of performance akin".. I was looking for "designed by NASA engineers" and "FAA certified" in the rest of the paragraph. Cracks me up.

Not sure if OP lives in rust belt. If so, think twice before getting RK products. Their powder coating is subpar. I had their trackbar relocation bracket for less than 3 years. When I removed it, it looked like it was pulled out of the Titanic.

Nothing against it but only my opinion.

Lol, you've obviously never had any dealings with the FAA if you put them and "bleeding edge" in the same sentence. Show me a joint that performs better than the RK Krawler joints. Hell show me a maintenance free joint that outperforms the RK Adventure joints. Yes their powder needs some work but I'm not sure anything survives the rust belt without regular maintenance. The RK guys are out there building and running race cars and using that knowledge to innovate in their consumer parts. Who else is doing that?

 

[c20040215]

Lol, you've obviously never had any dealings with the FAA if you put them and "bleeding edge" in the same sentence. Show me a joint that performs better than the RK Krawler joints. Hell show me a maintenance free joint that outperforms the RK Adventure joints. Yes their powder needs some work but I'm not sure anything survives the rust belt without regular maintenance. The RK guys are out there building and running race cars and using that knowledge to innovate in their consumer parts. Who else is doing that?

Good.
I am glad we are on the same page. The the powder coat is subpar and needs some work. I shared my concern based on first hand and second hand experience on this particular issue, and how I feel about it. And you are right again, weather and road salt are no joke to metal components, and requires some maintenance. The fact that the bracket I had the surface deteriorated faster than other parts installed at the same time, I drew the conclusion that the powder coat isnt as good as other brand.

That's all I was saying. There is no need to freak out and turn into fanboy mode.. joint this and race cars that. No one is talking about all that.

 

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[Ratbert]

Don't forget that you can subsequently upgrade the RockJock with their knuckles to raise the tie rod 2 3/4" and the drag link 2 1/2". It seems pretty compelling to be able to move those components out of harm's way.

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