Is there a JL E torque system delete?

[foxwalkin]

So thanks to the information provided by someone who felt the need to make negative assumptions about me and thus I can no longer see his post, thanks to that information I think we can conclude that the answer to whether you can move the eTorque battery, at least according to what he said, is no.

I've decided to keep my Gladiator which doesn't have eTorque so doesn't really matter. Have fun guys. For the guys that had civil good conversations ?.

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[limeade]

So thanks to the information provided by someone who felt the need to make negative assumptions about me and thus I can no longer see his post, thanks to that information I think we can conclude that the answer to whether you can move the eTorque battery, at least according to what he said, is no.

I've decided to keep my Gladiator which doesn't have eTorque so doesn't really matter. Have fun guys. For the guys that had civil good conversations ?.

 

[MattT69]

I just find that it is odd that they are not offering a 2 liter turbo e torque. All of the components involved are just to complex. Read on here all of the complaints about the 2.0t wrangler. I could do without electeic assist. I bought this jeep to build after a crash. Just wanted it to be simple.

I haven't seen those complaints. I have the 2018 JLR 2.0Lturbo WITH e-torque and its been flawless.
No complaints so far... Like the extra torque at start plus the up & down rev matching, plus the & brake assist to save on brake part replacement.

 

[MattT69]

I dont even know what E-torque is?

As posted before, here is a a quick summary of the 6 functions of eTorque:

1. Stop-Start: Unlike ESS, which uses the starter and is much more noticeable, eTorque uses the 48V battery and belt starter generator (BSG) to restart the engine within 400ms. Saves gas when at stop lights, etc. (I can verify that it's very seamless. The thing you notice most is just the lack of engine NVH when it stops.)

2. eRoll Assist: when starting to move, eTorque adds power for approximately the first half tire rotation to give the engine a "boost" down at inefficient low engine revs to get the vehicle moving.

3. Upshift Rev Matching: when the engine needs to upshift, eTorque scrubs off engine speed to rev match for a smooth shift, and stores that energy in the 48V battery instead of using the transmission clutches to scrub off that speed.

4. Electronic System power: the 48V battery is used to power the vehicle electrical loads so that the engine doesn't have the extra parasitic loss.

5. Downshift Rev Matching: eTorque accelerates the engine for smooth shifts instead of having to use fuel.

6. Regenerative Braking: under coasting or normal braking conditions, eTorque puts a load on the engine and uses the BSG to store energy that would normally have to be absorbed by the brake pads.

 

[MattT69]

In the 2023 MY, if you want the 3.6 without e-torque then you have to get the manual. If you want an automatic without e-torque, then you have to go with the 2.0 or the no longer available diesel. Early on, the JL was offered with a 2.0 e-torque but it was discontinued. I suspect that the e-torque is an attempt to improve the fuel economy ratings, which Stellantis seems to be struggling with.

True, I got the early 2018 JLR 2.0L with E-torque and I contribute the great MPGs to the e-torque system. I get 20mpg while rolling on 37" tires & 2.5 lift plus winch & steel bumper (it was close to 24mpg stock)... I read that non e-torque owners don't get as good of mileage when stock. SMH

I found this simple diagram of the system in this forum.

 

[DrewCipher]

I wanted to share my experience with 2021 JLUR 3.6 w/etorque. I bought the rig new, first time using the 12000k winch killed the OE battery due, IMHO, to the lack of alternator and, therefore, no ability to keep the rpm’s up to power the winch effectively. The etorque system has a fixed value 240amp dc/dc converter to charge the 12v batter and feed the 12v system. 2nd major issue what when I was deep backcountry in the Palo Duro Canyon, when the system started shutting down. No amount of battery booster would keep my 12v system running…this encompasses ignition, transmission, brakes, power steering etc etc…leaving me dead in the water with no options as there are no owner serviceable parts to the etorque system and no test/troubleshooting points. No bypass procedure no reasonable (or unreasonable) way to get the Jeep running even limping. These 2 experiences have brought me to the conclusion that the etorque system has no place on a vehicle that is taken off-road.

 

[Bleda2002]

I wanted to share my experience with 2021 JLUR 3.6 w/etorque. I bought the rig new, first time using the 12000k winch killed the OE battery due, IMHO, to the lack of alternator and, therefore, no ability to keep the rpm’s up to power the winch effectively. The etorque system has a fixed value 240amp dc/dc converter to charge the 12v batter and feed the 12v system. 2nd major issue what when I was deep backcountry in the Palo Duro Canyon, when the system started shutting down. No amount of battery booster would keep my 12v system running…this encompasses ignition, transmission, brakes, power steering etc etc…leaving me dead in the water with no options as there are no owner serviceable parts to the etorque system and no test/troubleshooting points. No bypass procedure no reasonable (or unreasonable) way to get the Jeep running even limping. These 2 experiences have brought me to the conclusion that the etorque system has no place on a vehicle that is taken off-road.

Gonna be honest, sounds like a shitty 12v battery which these are all known for, not an etorque issue... using the winch shouldn't kill a 12v even at regular rpms unless you're trying to winch for many many minutes on end at full load.

 

[DrewCipher]

Gonna be honest, sounds like a shitty 12v battery which these are all known for, not an etorque issue... using the winch shouldn't kill a 12v even at regular rpms unless you're trying to winch for many many minutes on end at full load.

Fair, as I stated it was the OE battery.

 

[MattT69]

Gonna be honest, sounds like a shitty 12v battery which these are all known for, not an etorque issue... using the winch shouldn't kill a 12v even at regular rpms unless you're trying to winch for many many minutes on end at full load.

Agreed ? I've been happy with the Optima Yellow Top battery ?

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