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LOL!!!

You guys just crack me up.

Anyway dudes. Stay calm. I am just messing with your heads.



It really depends.

https://www.thedrive.com/news/37023...e-after-falling-off-colorados-black-bear-pass






There is more. But I think a reasonable person would notice a trend.
just because people fall off the trail doesmt mean it is hard. If a trail is scary it doesnt mean it is hard. That jeep didnt fall because it didnt have lockers.... people fall off fire roads all the time. Again just shows how you just spend too much time on youtube instead of going out there.

Here is a stock willys going over the new gatekeeper at gold mountain. All it has is a limited slip rear.... and you can fit a front locker for $1500 (parts and labor). That thing would go anywhere.

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so... I see you've got a JL sport. ??
Yes, but it's a work in progress, not already done :handsinair: :rock: :clap::CWL:

.......and probably never will be :(
 

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I am good thanks.

Remember to post pictures on your next visit.
Oh here's some more for you. A mundane sport on 33s. "the wrong tool for the job". This is my Jeep by the way. Open diffs. You can even see the rear LSD working. See why I wanna get a front locker?


 

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Ok... so I am in a somewhat annoying situation, because I bought a sport S to begin with and started wheeling the shit out of it and got hooked. I found a 39k MSRP 2019 JL back in 2019 for 31.5k and couldnt let that deal pass. Right now, trading for a rubi will end up costing me more than modifying my sport.

I'll start by saying, upgrading the sport axles is NOT a waste of money. If you are not going bigger than 35s the new dana axles are stronger than the JK ones. Also, if you get an LSD package you get a dana44 on the rear.

Can you end up wheeling a very capable rig and spending less than buying a Rubicon? YES you can. With a few caveats.

1) You should not go larger than 35s.
2) You will need to put a lot of work into installing stuff yourself.
3) you will need to stick with sport transfer case.
4) You MIGHT need to be ok with staying stock gears.
5) You will not get any of it back when selling, so this is a keeper.

Think takeoffs!!!!

For rubicon like capabilities you can find a set of rubi takeoff suspension for $150 and a set of rubicon wheels/tires for $1200. You install the suspension yourself and you are at $1350. If you have a rear LSD, believe me, it is extremely capable. And if it is a 2 door you might call it a day after adding rock sliders.

An LSD is no locker.... alright add a front locker. $1500 is the cheapest quote I got parts+labor. There you go. $2,850 and I assure you this rig will go where rubicons go until the LSD craps out. Then get a rear locker installed. $4,350. Shit starts adding up huh?.

This is were my sport will likely end up in the next year or two. That would make it a 35,850 2 door with MT 33s, front and rear locker. When I bought my JL I could not find a rubi for less than ~43k(hardtop+AT). When my 33s wear out I might get 34s.

GAMECHANGER!

The Rubicon XT is coming out, it might become very popular. There are also rumors than rubicons will all be XT package in the coming years. XT takeoffs might become the ticket for sport owners!.

Ok.... that was a somewhat long post... I am building a sport to fit my needs and still spending less money than if I went with the Rubicon. Here is the thing, if I could go back in time? yeap I would've bought a Rubicon. But I did learn a lot with my sport. If I got a Rubicon instead, it will likely still be stock and I would have no idea on how to even replace a shock. I had to replace all 4 shocks last weekend because my shocks were not in great condition.

Oh... and if you still think regearing is worth it. $4000 is the cheapest quote I got for front+rear lockers + regearing, so that would put me into a 36,850 rig. Still. not bad.

Just get the Rubicon.... but do know that you can wheel a sport, and it is possible to spend a little less.
This is a great post!

It brought to mind one of the many, and most important, things that I've learned from this forum over the last few years. That everything starts with one's desired tire size. As pointed out above, if 35's are the goal, than a modestly built Sport or Sahara could easily chase a similarly set up Rubi until they both reached their individual limits. That specific Rubi is like having a cheat sheet with every other answer, but at the same time, it's not quite as much fun to watch.

If ones goals are 37-40's, that's where a Rubicon really shines. Having to add a quality set of 44's or 60's to an already long list of other areas to beef up, is a lot to swallow at once.
 

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This is a great post!

It brought to mind one of the many, and most important, things that I've learned from this forum over the last few years. That everything starts with one's desired tire size. As pointed out above, if 35's are the goal, than a modestly built Sport or Sahara could easily chase a similarly set up Rubi until they both reached their individual limits. That specific Rubi is like having a cheat sheet with every other answer, but at the same time, it's not quite as much fun to watch.

If ones goals are 37-40's, that's where a Rubicon really shines. Having to add a quality set of 44's or 60's to an already long list of other areas to beef up, is a lot to swallow at once.
Yeah, if I could find a set of Rubi axles within a reasonable drive and a reasonable price that would be the cherry on top, IMO that's all I really need to have the Jeep exactly where I want. I know I wouldn't have that 4:1 transfer case, but that 8AT on 4:10s running 35s is all I need, and for the trails I intend to run should be ideal :)

At least my DIY full skids are ready to mount up just in time for our Colorado BOH trip :)
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