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You seem to be ignoring the most obvious way to stop it: get it fixed. It's broken.
No, what I am trying to tell you ius that there is no fix for that particular structure. It is going to be inherent for that bridge until you change your approach, and speed for that bridge. I have been dealing with hundreds of units like that. Jeep will take it in for you and let it sit in their to let you "think" lot but they have nothing to fix. Hope that makes a bit of sense.
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Look at that corrosion on the bridge - the Jeep AI is warning you to start taking a different route!
 

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No, what I am trying to tell you ius that there is no fix for that particular structure. It is going to be inherent for that bridge until you change your approach, and speed for that bridge. I have been dealing with hundreds of units like that. Jeep will take it in for you and let it sit in their to let you "think" lot but they have nothing to fix. Hope that makes a bit of sense.
You're thinking that every single Jeep with adaptive cruise slams on its brakes at that spot?
 

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You're thinking that every single Jeep with adaptive cruise slams on its brakes at that spot?
Figure it out... I am not going to hold your hand. Do what you want to do.
 
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Figure it out... I am not going to hold your hand. Do what you want to do.
Ok, so you actually think that every Jeep with adaptive cruise slams in its brakes at that spot. That obviously isn't reality, but oh well.
 

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Every day when I go under this specific bridge (in either direction), the dash turns red, Brake! flashes and it beeps. Today however, the Jeep locked up the brakes for me. Almost got hit as a result, wasn't that thrilled with the experience, and the guy behind me had some choice gestures to share (which I don't blame him at all).

Does anyone know what the Jeep uses to make the decision that you are about to hit something? And does anyone see anything about this particular bridge that would set it off? The system does work, it has beeped when I'm using the adaptive cruise control and people decide to change lanes for no reason. But it has never actually stopped the vehicle. And it beeps every time I go under this bridge.

Now I'm scared of it, can it just lock up the brakes going down the highway because it sees a bird it doesn't like or something?
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This is precusely why I will NEVER buy or own a vehicle with ANY of these so-called "safety" or "driver assisted" features...unless they can be permanently disabled. Thankfully, our '10 Liberty and '23 Wrangler(*) don't have any....that I an aware of. (*) I did disable the silly autostop/start.

The technology is likely to improve over the next decade but by that time I'll be on that best trail ride in the sky.
 

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This is precusely why I will NEVER buy or own a vehicle with ANY of these so-called "safety" ...
You include seat belts, airbags, crumple zones, and anti-lock brakes in the category of "so-called" safety, right?
 

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Right? It can save you from an accident or cause an accident. I'm still torn on this one but after today, it's disabled for now.

Edit: The only reason I didn't get hit was the car behind me was a brand new shiny red Camaro and he was paying attention and also locked up his brakes. Had it been Sally-texts-alot behind me, I'd be in the shop, and who would be at fault? I'm pretty sure me even though I had nothing to do with it.
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No, what I am trying to tell you ius that there is no fix for that particular structure. It is going to be inherent for that bridge until you change your approach, and speed for that bridge. I have been dealing with hundreds of units like that. Jeep will take it in for you and let it sit in their to let you "think" lot but they have nothing to fix. Hope that makes a bit of sense.
If this is the case, then that vehicle and all similar models, need to be recalled and removed public roads.
 

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You include seat belts, airbags, crumple zones, and anti-lock brakes in the category of "so-called" safety, right?
Come on, who the hell needs head rests? My neck is obviously strong enough to not let my head flail around when I get hit!

The horrible "safety feature" that Jeep calls a "roll bar" are obviously just nanny state devices put there in the name of "safety". Don't let @Tredsdert know, but it's a massive amount of excess and useless weight just crying to be removed!

Seriously though, I've had otherwise intelligent friends that refused to wear seat belts due to being told that they had to. I've also been involved in a 6-car pileup that most likely wouldn't have happened if the young woman in the little Honda had a car that would stop itself. Fortunately she was able to limp away due to her airbags activating after slamming into stopped vehicles at 60mph without ever touching the brakes.
 

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If this is the case, then that vehicle and all similar models, need to be recalled and removed public roads.
And subsequently every new Kenworth, Volvo, Freightliner, and darn near every semi truck built in the last eight years needs to be recalled and removed from public roads. It is an inherent way that these radar / camera systems work. if people knew how to drive with these systems... one would understand the safety of them. For example... a great many semi truck drivers watch movies on iPads or computers going down the road to alleviate boredom. Many is the life was saved from being rear ended by the trucks computer. That is also why their is lane departure warning. Same vein... look at the cars next to you. How many are watching movies, playing on their phones, texting, or otherwise distracted. Now if you think out of the box a bit... you can see where this computerized braking saves lives.
 

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Come on, who the hell needs head rests? My neck is obviously strong enough to not let my head flail around when I get hit!

The horrible "safety feature" that Jeep calls a "roll bar" are obviously just nanny state devices put there in the name of "safety". Don't let @Tredsdert know, but it's a massive amount of excess and useless weight just crying to be removed!

Seriously though, I've had otherwise intelligent friends that refused to wear seat belts due to being told that they had to. I've also been involved in a 6-car pileup that most likely wouldn't have happened if the young woman in the little Honda had a car that would stop itself. Fortunately she was able to limp away due to her airbags activating after slamming into stopped vehicles at 60mph without ever touching the brakes.
Airbags?

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My wife just bought me a front seat harness bar which I'll be installing here in a couple weeks. At that point I will be purchasing two four-point harnesses for both front seats, at that point who needs an airbag!?!?

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Yes, it's always that spot. Either North or Southbound lanes both trigger it. It's never gone off anywhere else that wasn't justified. That's why I was thinking it could be something in or part of the bridge. Good point with the reflections though, I've never been through there at night.
My GMC truck does the same occasionally when sunlight reflects off a car in front of me, seems to be when cresting a hill mostly.

Hard to replicate consistently.
 

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And subsequently every new Kenworth, Volvo, Freightliner, and darn near every semi truck built in the last eight years needs to be recalled and removed from public roads. It is an inherent way that these radar / camera systems work. if people knew how to drive with these systems... one would understand the safety of them. For example... a great many semi truck drivers watch movies on iPads or computers going down the road to alleviate boredom. Many is the life was saved from being rear ended by the trucks computer. That is also why their is lane departure warning. Same vein... look at the cars next to you. How many are watching movies, playing on their phones, texting, or otherwise distracted. Now if you think out of the box a bit... you can see where this computerized braking saves lives.
See this for how well this stuff works:

 
 







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