HOOD STRUT CHALLENGE!!!

[Aonar]

Looks like they had the first one deleted and made another, which is completely reasonable.

I am guessing the one I linked is the new one? Thx.

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[yokramer]

I am guessing the one I linked is the new one? Thx.

Yea I had the old link and it goes to an "Oops something went wrong" page.

 

[Aonar]

Yea I had the old link and it goes to an "Oops something went wrong" page.

Thank you.
When I commented on that thread and asked specific questions about the product, I did so to help members make an informed decision. It saddens me that the response on their side was to delete.

BUT I do agree that they had every right to do so. That in and of itself gives me insight and information.

 

[yokramer]

Thank you.
When I commented on that thread and asked specific questions about the product, I did so to help members make an informed decision. It saddens me that the response on their side was to delete.

BUT I do agree that they had every right to do so. That in and of itself gives me insight and information.

Yea it wasnt unreasonable either. I get launching a new product and it devolves into a this product vs the other debate isnt really what you want.

 

[Terrymo]

Yea it wasnt unreasonable either. I get launching a new product and it devolves into a this product vs the other debate isnt really what you want.

Right we don’t want any free market competition and lack of censorship around here.

 

[Redline Tuning]

That being said, @Redline Tuning loves to throw around their "Made in USA" speech every time a post something. And over the last 3 years, the multiple times I've called them out, they will never post any level of proof of this. It's like that's literally their only selling point, they have a mediocre product that they state is made in the USA and is clearly a big marketing thing for them. Shoot I can't even get them to show what they assemble in their tiny little office in Ann Arbor. I'm guessing releasing that kind of information would significantly hurt their business model when people realize they're just shipping out other people's products and not assembling anything themselves.

Please don’t make ASSumptions about a business you have no idea about.

As with most companies, we do not manufacture components, but design them in house, create drawings and then rely on suppliers who are experts in their field to manufacture them to our drawings/specifications.

We do not manufacture our gas springs in house, rather we have a Gas Spring supplier in New York state. Our mounting hardware (brackets) are manufactured for us locally here in Michigan, the backing plate insert for our hood brackets is stamped in Illinois, our vinyl sleeves that we ship our gas springs in are manufactured in Massachusetts and the shipping tubes that we ship our product in are made in Wisconsin. So YES, our products are ACTUALLY made in the USA. We bring these components to our location in Ann Arbor, assemble everything and package them up to ship out to our customer. We have been in business for over 23 years have designed and developed our Hood QuickLIFT systems for over 350 different vehicles. We are the global leader in Hood lift designs and are proud to support other USA businesses in the manufacturing of our products. 80% of the Jeep Hood lift systems you see out there from other companies are direct copies of our design. So it is rather annoying to see yet ANOTHER company blatantly copy our design, manufacture it in China and sell it for less.

The benefits of our products:

• 100% Made in the USA
• 4 or 5 year warranty PLUS vs. ELITE
• Our Mounting hardware is zinc plated and then powder coated so even if you scratch the powder coating, they will not rust.
• The bolts we use for our hood brackets are Stainless Steel and then black oxide coated to match the Black brackets. Again, they will not rust.
• US customer support, If you ever have an issue and you call you actually talk to a person in the United States.

At the end of the day customers can buy whatever product they want, we only want to inform consumers why our product is better.

 

[yokramer]

Right we don’t want any free market competition and lack of censorship around here.

Yea but thats not what that thread turned into with your help Terry lol

 

[Aonar]

Right we don’t want any free market competition and lack of censorship around here.

(side bar) As a libertarian (mostly) I am all for free speech. If someone spouts off in a manner that I wholly disagree with, It gives me the chance to decide to interact with them or not.

BUT I do agree that they had every right to do so. That in and of itself gives me insight and information

With them deleting the engagement, it told me things I am glad I now know.

 

[Reflektr]

This is a pair of Stabilus struts I had lying around my shop. They aren’t for a Jeep hood to my knowledge. I believe they’re for a KUV box door. But this one here just happens to be made in USA. The ones I replaced on my 2006 Dodge work-beater were made across the pond somewhere.

I try to support actual “Made In USA” companies/brands but it becomes tiring when they’re constantly changing materials and packaging. You find something good that you like and before you know it, that’s either discontinued or outsourced. Case in point - Liquid Sunglasses. I may get laughed at over shades but it’s a prime example. They made a great product, got a good customer base, then let their own website die to sell on Amazon. When the nose of that ship was the only thing above water, they jumped off of it and started another eyewear company, leaving Liquid customers who still needed support high and dry.

 

[Aonar]

BTW!!!!!
For anyone thinking that this is JUST a "raw, raw, USA" post(s) by me...I will tell you that is not the case with me.

YES, I LOVE spending my hard-earned dollars with US Companies with USA made products.
NO, that is not the only factor in my purchasing decisions.

One example:
-I purchased the @ASFIR4X4 Fuel Filter skid for my diesel JLURD.
-They are a Company based out of Isreal if I am not mistaken.
-I knew this when I purchased the skid.

-I did not discount their product line BECAUSE they were based in another Country
-I did not buy their product because they were based in a SPECIFIC Country
-I bought from them because their product was EXACTLY what I needed, no more and no less.
-I saw VALUE for me.

https://www.jlwranglerforums.com/fo...case-skid-install-vid-and-information.105307/

 

[Deleted User 38384]

Please don’t make ASSumptions about a business you have no idea about.

As with most companies, we do not manufacture components, but design them in house, create drawings and then rely on suppliers who are experts in their field to manufacture them to our drawings/specifications.

We do not manufacture our gas springs in house, rather we have a Gas Spring supplier in New York state. Our mounting hardware (brackets) are manufactured for us locally here in Michigan, the backing plate insert for our hood brackets is stamped in Illinois, our vinyl sleeves that we ship our gas springs in are manufactured in Massachusetts and the shipping tubes that we ship our product in are made in Wisconsin. So YES, our products are ACTUALLY made in the USA. We bring these components to our location in Ann Arbor, assemble everything and package them up to ship out to our customer. We have been in business for over 23 years have designed and developed our Hood QuickLIFT systems for over 350 different vehicles. We are the global leader in Hood lift designs and are proud to support other USA businesses in the manufacturing of our products. 80% of the Jeep Hood lift systems you see out there from other companies are direct copies of our design. So it is rather annoying to see yet ANOTHER company blatantly copy our design, manufacture it in China and sell it for less.

The benefits of our products:

• 100% Made in the USA
• 4 or 5 year warranty PLUS vs. ELITE
• Our Mounting hardware is zinc plated and then powder coated so even if you scratch the powder coating, they will not rust.
• The bolts we use for our hood brackets are Stainless Steel and then black oxide coated to match the Black brackets. Again, they will not rust.
• US customer support, If you ever have an issue and you call you actually talk to a person in the United States.

At the end of the day customers can buy whatever product they want, we only want to inform consumers why our product is better.

Damn, and it only took you 3 years to give that answer!!



In the future, it would be a good look for you guys to be respectful of your fellow forum sponsors.

If you really do have 23 years of experience, and know-how in the industry, and have survived that long with a quality product, then you have to know how what you did in the other sponsors thread last night was totally not acceptable!!

Maybe the issue here is your social media marketing team. Maybe you need to squad wipe them and get some people who have a little bit of tact, and aren't self-righteous... Well you know where I'm going!



... Or did your daddy not teach you that?

 

[Terrymo]

Yea but thats not what that thread turned into with your help Terry lol

I would just like to say before this thread is “not open to further replies” I have no recollection of participating in such a manner.

 

[siggy]

Woah things are getting heated! Not sure I understand the appeal of hood struts. Y'all just need to do more shoulder presses. Good for shoulder and physical health. Are we in a Jeep or Prius forum???

 

[yokramer]

Woah things are getting heated! Not sure I understand the appeal of hood struts. Y'all just need to do more shoulder presses. Good for shoulder and physical health. Are we in a Jeep or Prius forum???

For me they are hella nice when doing work under the hood and not having to lay it all the way back all the time. Quick check of the oil, coolant, and battery work/wiring.

 

[au176]

Redline Tuning since November 2022 still work great with a four year warranty I believe but you pay shipping. Send them the video.

Otherwise I like Stabilus if you know the length and weight they need to support.

We used Stabilus on our machines at work, and they were opened and closed multiple (like 20-30) times a day. Generally lasted 18-24 months, but when you consider how much they got used, I consider them to be the benchmark for quality.

I've got the Rival 4x4 Hood Lift Kit from Quadratech.

https://www.quadratec.com/p/rival-4x4/hood-lift-kit-wrangler-jl-gladiator-jt-2A-ST-2702-1

I don't remember the brand name of the struts- NOT Stabilus, but I've had them on the Jeep for just over 4 years, opening the hood a couple times a month on average. They try to push the hood up from the moment I release the latches. I actually have to hold the hood down to release the latches and secondary release. (I'd post a vid, but the Jeep is buried in the back corner of the garage right now.)

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