Halogen to LED upgrade

[OminousSkitter]

Yeah, sometimes I miss Texas—especially the food—but I love it up here. As for the rear view mirror, instead of removing it, there's also that handy lever on the bottom of it that you can just flip and cars behind you don't blind you.

Oh, at 50,000 hours, are you really concerned about LED life expectancy? if you average 10mph (including all stopped time the headlights are on), that's still 500,000 miles you've driven.

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[Upnarms]

NOTE: I rewrote this post three times trying to get it shorter so this is the shortest it's going to get. So for those of you who don't want to read through this massive post, here's a...

TL;DR: My headlight bulbs are replaceable and cost significantly less, your headlight bulbs are not replaceable and cost significantly more. My bulbs produce 50,000 lumens at 50 w and are not DOT approved, no one knows lumens Mopar headlights produce because Mopar is ashamed of their numbers!


Hey man whatever you got to tell yourself to warrant why you spent $384 more than you needed to.



Almost all LEDs last for 50,000 hours on average.

Lumens are measured by the amount of output per chip per watt. Also there is reflective lumens as well, those tend to be lower numbers than the raw lumens.

The main difference between the OEM LED headlights on the Wrangler and a halogen assembly with LED headlight bulbs is that the halogen ones work on a reflection system, which tends to provide a wider beam and more general light output. The OEM LED assembly provides projector lighting, which is more of a tight beam and focused light output.

The difference really comes down to raw power. Who has the better LED bulb in their assembly.

Your bulbs in the Mopar LED headlights, are DOT approved regulated headlights that you can't seem to find any listing anywhere as to the lumens they produce. Companies often do this because they know they won't match up to better quality, higher output LED lights. One of the ways to improve lower quality headlights is to put them into a projector style assembly. It focuses the beam, and you don't notice as much that it's not producing as much light as other LED bulbs. Not saying that's what Mopar did in this case, but if you ever look up the Oracle LED headlights (which are also projector lenses) they are significantly brighter.

My headlights are definitely not DOT approved, and they produce a whopping 10,000 lumens each at 50w. As a point of reference, Oracles projection LED headlights produce 5,200 lumens each (they are also DOT approved).

One major point here is that I can swap out my LED bulbs with any other H13 LED bulb on the market. You are stuck with whatever they give you in your headlight assembly.

The biggest difference why my headlights are way better than yours or anyone with a Mopar LED light package, is because at the end of the day, after 50,000 hours of use, when both of our headlights go out, mine will only cost $16 to replace, and yours will still cost $400+.

So good luck with your $400 headlights that aren't any better than mine!


It should be known that back when I bought these headlights in 2019 they were available to be purchased from China through the AliExpress website. You can still get them, but you have to go through Amazon at this point. Also they seem to cost double what I paid for them back then.

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Also it should be noted that installing these bulbs allow you to still keep your watertight headlight assembly.

I bought these ones a while back for my work van, and they are extremely bright. I don't think they're actually 30,000 lumens, but they are definitely brighter than my current headlights on the Wrangler. I actually have them in my garage still. I remove them from the work van when they changed my route.

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Glad you are happy with them. I have had the cheap chinese leds in my tj and my jk. The factory LEDs on the JL are way better. Not even close. The quality, cut off, projection, etc. But that's just my opinion and experience with them. Yours obviously differs.

Btw, I wrote that all in one draft. ?

 

[Upnarms]

Yeah, sometimes I miss Texas—especially the food—but I love it up here. As for the rear view mirror, instead of removing it, there's also that handy lever on the bottom of it that you can just flip and cars behind you don't blind you.

Oh, at 50,000 hours, are you really concerned about LED life expectancy? if you average 10mph (including all stopped time the headlights are on), that's still 500,000 miles you've driven.

Ha yeah I was doing the math and 50000 hours is over 5 years of continuous headlight use 24/7.

 

[Deleted User 38384]

Glad you are happy with them. I have had the cheap chinese leds in my tj and my jk. The factory LEDs on the JL are way better. Not even close. The quality, cut off, projection, etc. But that's just my opinion and experience with them. Yours obviously differs.

Btw, I wrote that all in one draft. ?

I rewrite my stuff so much...

Realistically speaking, we're all winning. We all got LEDs. Only people losing are the people who are facing me in oncoming traffic!

 

[Upnarms]

I rewrite my stuff so much...

Realistically speaking, we're all winning. We all got LEDs. Only people losing are the people who are facing me in oncoming traffic!

Ha, I've been flashed so many times since upgrading. Then I got them with the real high beams, poor souls!

 

[shooting4625]

I have a 2023 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon. It was almost fully loaded. The only thing it doesn't have is the LED light group. I contacted my local Jeep dealership and all the LEDs will be available in a few days. Total cost for the LED headlights, foglights, left and right turn signals in the fenders and the LED tail lights are $3600 after taxes (without dealer installation and $650 for installation) My question is do these have to be programmed onces installed or are they plug-n-play ready to go? I found all the exact same lights for $2600 if I can just plug then in and be good to go

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They will provide high quality LED replacement bulbs that create the same pattern as the Halogen except way brighter than stock, I did this and flush mount Oracle rear lights for around $800
The main issue is some states do not allow you to put LED bulbs in Halogen reflectors, so these high quality bulbs are higher priced than the crap on amazon but produce a perfect pattern, I also changed the front fog lights with Diode Dynamics yellow bulbs, again excellent quality.

 

[BXFXJeep]

I got all my LED lights from China. Bought them all on month two of ownership. I've had zero issues with any of them for almost 2 years now.

LED light bulbs I replaced are as follows:

Headlights: $16 free shipping
Fog Lights (pair of 2 bulbs): $7 free shipping
Brake lights (pack of 10 LED bulbs): $5 free shipping
Backup bulbs (pair of 2): $8 free shipping

Total Cost: $36

All the bulbs I purchased are canbus chip included hyperblink-free LED bulbs. Meaning you don't need to buy some stupid bulky resistor. Best part is because the OEM headlights on the halogen Wranglers are reflective assemblies, when you insert an LED bulb they are in fact brighter than if you spent the money and purchased the LED headlight assemblies.


Why anybody would spend a ridiculous amount of money when they could have just spent $36 for the exact same outcome is beyond me, but to each their own I guess.

Those $30 LED bulbs are a nuisance to other drivers.

I had halogen on my 2018 JL, and didn't bother changing them out because every after market LEDs from bulbs to complete replacement looked like utter ? and was always blinding, not to mention some always had a failed light somewhere in the mix.

 

[Resin Addict]

One thing…for whatever reason, converting from OEM halogen front turn signal DRL’s to OEM LED front turn signal DRL’s can be very problematic…I did it, and had the dealer flash it, and I still get hyperflash and instrument panel “lights out” error messages. After the problems I faced I did more research, and apparently it’s a problem no one (including Jeep) knows how to fix.

 

[Deleted User 38384]

Those $30 LED bulbs are a nuisance to other drivers.

I had halogen on my 2018 JL, and didn't bother changing them out because every after market LEDs from bulbs to complete replacement looked like utter ? and was always blinding, not to mention some always had a failed light somewhere in the mix.

 

[Upnarms]

A little off topic, but the factory JL headlights and probably some after market ones hold up pretty well being not at all aerodynamic and at the front of the vehicle. After 3 years, I don't see any pitting, yellowing, cracks, etc. Yet my windshield gets pelted and cracked all the time by pea sized pebbles, etc. How about a windshield made from that stuff? Yeah I know, I'm sure on a larger surface the distortion and weathering may be more noticeable, but come on!

 

[Wabujitsu]

Weird. I’m running the Beamtech 16,000 LM, 70 W bulbs on both Jeeps; mine is a 2.5” lifted Rubi on 35s, and I NEVER get flashed by oncoming traffic - and I can see perfectly fine quite a bit downrange.

 

[Bill_P]

Um, yeah, please share a link or the name of what you used that worked so well for so cheap. I’d be into that.

I would double check the law there in DC. I know down here in VA it is illegal to put LED bulbs in a housing that was designed for halogen. You can swap out the whole unit, but changing out bulbs is illegal and will fail you on inspection and get you a ticket if they pull you for anything.

 

[20-Willys]

When I installed the beamtech bulbs I had 5 people flashing their highs at me just driving around the block. I went home and just adjusted them to spec and no more issues. They are bright, and night day from stock. They did also cause some static for me on certain radio stations. One of the forum members had a great deal on some RC replacements w\halos and I ended up swapping in these. I've been happy with them so far.

 

[TX_Ovrlnd]

Lumens do not matter, that is not an accurate measurement of useable light at the desired target point. Your 50gajillion lumens is just scattered light pissing off other drivers while you squint to see the road ahead. I’m all about saving money but don’t sacrifice function and safety in the process.

 

[Riotfunk]

Just not some aftermarket ones. Will be better and 2g cheaper. And are easy to put in

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