Had a Wreck 8-11

[cjaama]

OP, great job in minimizing the damage in that crash. Early on the brake, attempted evasive action without over doing it, and cautious speed on approach to a know hazardous area. Excellent job. You did a well, keep it up.

Absolutely unnecessary. The need for a lawyer, or video to prove fault.
That intersection is controlled by a stop sign and blinking light, both of which require cross traffic to yield. There's no scenario in which through traffic would be at fault unless they are going way to fast, or some other manner of not being in lawful use of the roadway (unlicensed, drunk, etc).
I'm not opposed to dash cameras. On the contrary I think they're great and can absolutely help resolve disputes. This case though is not one that needs it. And the lawyer? Hmmmm, I guess if you want to contribute to the litigious society we now live in, sure. Otherwise it would only be needed if the at-fault driver is uninsured, or their insurance isn't providing satisfactory compensation.

I've seen the result. It's not pretty. A girl was riding with her right foot on the dash and ended up with a broken hip/pelvis, broken leg, and a nice bruise on her face. Feet on the dash can/will mess you up in a crash.

It seems like I have a fellow [former] claims adjuster or someone with just a lot of crashes under their belt.
Couldn't agree more with everything here. I always recommend holding onto footage until you need it. They can always look at that footage and come to their own conclusions. I have a dash cam and I always think it makes it look like I'm driving faster than I am, particularly on city streets.

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[Joker4L]

OP, great job in minimizing the damage in that crash. Early on the brake, attempted evasive action without over doing it, and cautious speed on approach to a know hazardous area. Excellent job. You did a well, keep it up.

Absolutely unnecessary. The need for a lawyer, or video to prove fault.
That intersection is controlled by a stop sign and blinking light, both of which require cross traffic to yield. There's no scenario in which through traffic would be at fault unless they are going way to fast, or some other manner of not being in lawful use of the roadway (unlicensed, drunk, etc).
I'm not opposed to dash cameras. On the contrary I think they're great and can absolutely help resolve disputes. This case though is not one that needs it. And the lawyer? Hmmmm, I guess if you want to contribute to the litigious society we now live in, sure. Otherwise it would only be needed if the at-fault driver is uninsured, or their insurance isn't providing satisfactory compensation.

I've seen the result. It's not pretty. A girl was riding with her right foot on the dash and ended up with a broken hip/pelvis, broken leg, and a nice bruise on her face. Feet on the dash can/will mess you up in a crash.

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[aprez27]

First and foremost, glad you are all ok.

Now, am I the only one that is surprised they would have a 60 MPH speed limit approaching a flashing yellow intersection?
Seems like a recipe for disaster.

 

[cjaama]

First and foremost, glad you are all ok.

Now, am I the only one that is surprised they would have a 60 MPH speed limit approaching a flashing yellow intersection?
Seems like a recipe for disaster.

The flashing yellow is there because it’s a 60ish mph zone.
If it were a 40mph zone it would most likely just be the stop signs for the intersecting road.
You only see flashing yellow at dangerous intersections.

 

[aprez27]

The flashing yellow is there because it’s a 60ish mph zone.
If it were a 40mph zone it would most likely just be the stop signs for the intersecting road.
You only see flashing yellow at dangerous intersections.

That's crazy, especially in the rain. Coming in the other direction must be real difficult to judge, especially around here where people are usually doing 10 MPH over, if not more.

 

[thecritter]

That's crazy, especially in the rain. Coming in the other direction must be real difficult to judge, especially around here where people are usually doing 10 MPH over, if not more.

This is Texas and curvy two lane non divided highways are regularly 70mph. My direction of travel is visible easily 1.25 miles I believe the flashing is more the intersecting road not to run the stop sign. This is one section of road strictly speed enforced 64 mph will get you pulled over. I have been stopped a few times not 1 mile down the road it's big wide and feels like a 70mph around here.

I am just thankful everyone walked away. If it had been a hotter night would not have been in the naked jeep, but a 6" lifted diesel excursion on 37's would have been a much worse night.

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[cjaama]

I just looked the intersection up on Google Streetview. Man, that’s a big intersection on a 60mph road to not have a traffic light.

https://www.google.com/maps/@32.150...4!1s5pdRWZYy6n05GbFq-rs2BA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

 

[thecritter]

I just looked the intersection up on Google Streetview. Man, that’s a big intersection on a 60mph road to not have a traffic light.

https://www.google.com/maps/@32.150...4!1s5pdRWZYy6n05GbFq-rs2BA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Well I can attest to how well what is there dosen't work.

 

[grady2hig]

you should really slow down for a flashing yellow light...its not the same as green.

 

[UKCATS]

Glad you and your family are alright.

 

[cjaama]

As I said in a prior post, keep the video to yourself unless someone tries to say something happened that can be proven otherwise by sharing the video.
You don't need a lawyer.

 

[Shots]

you should really slow down for a flashing yellow light...its not the same as green

Also, flashing yellow lights means slow down and be prepared to stop, then proceed with caution(especially with multiple flashing lights)....

Had someone pull out in front of us speed limit is 60 its a bad intersection and i was running about 50.......

In the original post the OP even mentions slowing down to 10 below the posted limit. With the typical driver at 5-10 over the posted limit, this implies the OP slowed 15-20 mph upon approach to the intersection.
So you mean to tell my, YOU will slow down greater than 15-20 mph on a through road which you have the right-of-way? Maybe, but I doubt it. We have to look at things with the facts as they are known at the time, not with knowledge that a crash is going to occur. You can't look at things with the hind sight of 20/20.
This is a pretty desolate stretch of road, it's 9:10 pm so there's not going to be a lot of traffic, and the OP has the right-of-way. A typical/reasonable person is likely to continue driving 60-65 through the intersection. It's highly unlikely that anyone is going to slow down more than 15-20 mph to go through the intersection. Either you don't live in rural areas with intersections like this or you're fooling yourselves about how you drive.
We have plenty of intersections like that around here (typical in rural areas getting close to town), where it's 55 mph zone, and there's a blinking light at an intersection. Very few people slow down to go through, and those that do only slow down 10-ish mph. Whats more, I would argue that slowing down more than that creates a risk. You create a greater speed differential risking being hit by traffic behind you, AND/OR confusing cross traffic who may think you're slowing to turn. Does this cause them to pull in front of you because they thought you were turning? Maybe, maybe not, but are you creating an undue risk by slowing more than a typical driver?

FWIW the speeds match the statement, and to answer the other response, no it doesn't appear he was speeding up. Analyzing the video, the pre-braking speed is 54 mph (covering 240 feet in 3 seconds (-6 to -3 seconds before braking)). The next segment shows a speed of 53 mph (covering 235 in 3 seconds (-3 seconds to start braking)). Full disclosure these are rough numbers using low-res video but it's pretty close.

 

[Shots]

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Also, flashing yellow lights means slow down and be prepared to stop, then proceed with caution(especially with multiple flashing lights)

Here is the law on flashing yellow lights:

"You should slow down, be alert, and be prepared to stop. At an intersection you must slow down, watch for crossing traffic and proceed with caution through the intersection. You are not required to stop, unless to avoid an accident, but must slow down."

Your video shows the contrary. I advise you hire a lawyer.....just in case.

As noted in my last post, the OP did slow down to roughly 5-10 mph below the limit (as he originally said). More importantly regarding the posted law. Check the bold type. It says "should" slow down. The law doesn't require that they "must" slow down.

Edit 8/31 to correct myself:
I notice the second sentence uses the word "must". This is confusing. Do they mean "should" or "must". Not well written. But either way, the OP did slow down, and even if the law is saying "must" it doesn't specify how much, so on pure technicality 5-10 mph reduction is compliant with the law.

 

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[thecritter]

Wow @Shots THANK YOU. Unfortunately there are people that dont know its possible to measure and count frames and get the speed. The latest firmware version of the waylens does include gps info but the version I had does not include it, it has been updated now. Also as stated above it would be absurd to slow down any more it would increase getting rear ended.

My family is safe and other than some bruises fine. Yes it is aggravating not having the jeep, but as long as it is fixed %100 and they pay the depreciation of vehicle value from the accident no need for a lawyer. I can see where they would want it greedy lol no offense to my lawyer friends out there, but I know what I payed as a Male kid in insurance rates was insane!!

Just talked to the body shop they are replacing bent parts of suspension and will be measuring everything to make sure there is nothing wrong that cant be seen. Should be able to get it back next Friday

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