Got a warning for no mirrors.

[Wbino]

And only make left turns, because our necks don't work and we drive by mirrors and braille

I wish you and those around you well in your driving experiences.

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[TrailScooter]

We’re talking about an officer in Lodi, WI. Small town.

And yes, officers do side gigs and overtime to make extra income. Because most of them aren’t raking in upper incomes. Consider it a perk for being sworn at, spit on, kicked in the face, and apparently, ridiculed in public forums.

My pop was a cop. I'm related to several former and retired law enforcement. I considered a career in law enforcement in my young life. That said, it is very difficult to disrespect the respectable... or ridicule something that is not ridiculous.


Don't know about you but my American flag doesn't have a blue line. They don't even pretend anymore.

 

[dsgrey]

So all those vehicles built without passenger side mirrors, you're just supposed to blindly change lanes?

I remember when most vehicles did not have passenger side mirrors. Doorless, I always have side mirrors on the Jeep for awareness but turn my head before changing lanes and such.

 

[garykk]

High school diploma
A few weeks of training.

Maybe where you come from.

 

[Zandcwhite]

Maybe where you come from.

New Mexico has one of the more stringent training programs... and it's still only 677hrs. By comparison you need 2,000 hours of in class training and 8000 hours of on the job training to become a journeyman electrician. We don't get to carry guns or enforce laws but we are still required to know the building codes that pertain to our work. It's obvious that a lot of them are under trained period.

 

[pnut]

Got a warning for no mirrors in Lodi WI.
Neighbor had some bike mirrors from Walmart. $12.00
Love them! I don't have to remove them when I put the doors on.

I had the same a few years back. I actually had one of those convex mirrors stuck to my leftmost vent. The police officer shared that the rule is the mirror must be outside the vehicle. It was just a warning and I got some mirrors after that.

This was in Michigan. At Silver Lake dunes. In this town during summers there are Jeeps
everywhere driving around in various state of nakedness, so they keep an eye on it.

 

[Zandcwhite]

I had the same a few years back. I actually had one of those convex mirrors stuck to my leftmost vent. The police officer shared that the rule is the mirror must be outside the vehicle. It was just a warning and I got some mirrors after that.

Assuming you were also in WI the office was flat wrong based on the vehicle code posted earlier. This is why I encourage politely informing them that they are wrong. Years later, same state, could have been the same officer... and they still Don't know the laws they are enforcing. It would almost be better if they wrote the tickets as at least then it would be documented in court that they are incompetent.

 

[jcruse64]

Just because I can do your job doesn't mean I want to? In my opinion it takes a weird personality to go in to law enforcement. Especially the highway patrol side. Pretty much every interaction you have will be negative. It's either you're pulling people over or they just got in an accident. Nobody is ever having a good day. Odd career choice to want everyone you interact with to be having a terrible day?

Seems a pretty dismissive opinion. Law enforcement is one example among many, to look at the bolded part of the quote from you, where the person in that line of work very often deals with people having a bad day, even the worst day of their lives. Doctors of all type, nurses of all types, judges, fire fighters, EMT's, rescue personnel, soldiers, etc. So, you think ALL of these people have weird personalities? What an odd way to dismissively judge an entire profession, just in LE alone, much less all those other professions where people consciously choose to enter them, knowing they'll be dealing with people daily who are having bad days. For sure, for differing motives, but still...

 

[Deleted User 38384]

Got a warning for no mirrors in Lodi WI.
Neighbor had some bike mirrors from Walmart. $12.00
Love them! I don't have to remove them when I put the doors on.

In most states your mirrors have to allow you to clearly see 200 ft. behind you. I highly doubt that bike mirror is going to cut it. Just do yourself a favor and go to AutoZone and get you a moped mirror that you can stick into the hole where the door was. I think they're like eight bucks. I have one in my garage that I ran anytime I had doors off for the last 3 years.

Anytime you start playing with safety features, it's always a good idea to see what the parameters of the law are.

I'm surprised @Tredsdert hasn't piped in here. I'm pretty sure he added the insanely brightest / most obnoxious turn signals possible just to see how far he could push things / the law. As far as I can tell they're technically legal, at least in his state.

Bunch of yahoo's around here man, I swear!

If you're going to play stupid games, at least make sure you cover your ass!

 

[rogercanady]

Just comply with the cops misguided opinion of the law? The rearview mirror is all that's required period. If legally driving my vehicle gets their attention, it's an opportunity to educate. Maybe law enforcement should know... the laws? Just consent to warrant-less searches too, wouldn't want to upset the poor officer who doesn't know how to do his job?

Except you're wrong.


California Code, Vehicle Code - VEH § 26709
Current as of January 01, 2023 | Updated by FindLaw Staff
(a)(1) Every motor vehicle registered in a foreign jurisdiction and every motorcycle subject to registration in this state shall be equipped with a mirror so located as to reflect to the driver a view of the highway for a distance of at least 200 feet to the rear of such vehicle.
(2) Every motor vehicle subject to registration in this state, except a motorcycle, shall be equipped with not less than two mirrors, including one affixed to the left-hand side.
(b) The following described types of motor vehicles, of a type subject to registration, shall be equipped with mirrors on both the left- and right-hand sides of the vehicle so located as to reflect to the driver a view of the highway through each mirror for a distance of at least 200 feet to the rear of such vehicle:

 

[Zandcwhite]

Seems a pretty dismissive opinion. Law enforcement is one example among many, to look at the bolded part of the quote from you, where the person in that line of work very often deals with people having a bad day, even the worst day of their lives. Doctors of all type, nurses of all types, judges, fire fighters, EMT's, rescue personnel, soldiers, etc. So, you think ALL of these people have weird personalities? What an odd way to dismissively judge an entire profession, just in LE alone, much less all those other professions where people consciously choose to enter them, knowing they'll be dealing with people daily who are having bad days. For sure, for differing motives, but still...

Those other professions for the most part are helping people through their bad day, ie if my house is on fire I'm really glad to see the fire tricks roll up. If my wife needs surgery I'm relieved when the surgeon walks in. Do you get that feeling when the highway patrol shows up? Usually not in my experience.

 

[Zandcwhite]

Except you're wrong.


California Code, Vehicle Code - VEH § 26709
Current as of January 01, 2023 | Updated by FindLaw Staff
(a)(1) Every motor vehicle registered in a foreign jurisdiction and every motorcycle subject to registration in this state shall be equipped with a mirror so located as to reflect to the driver a view of the highway for a distance of at least 200 feet to the rear of such vehicle.
(2) Every motor vehicle subject to registration in this state, except a motorcycle, shall be equipped with not less than two mirrors, including one affixed to the left-hand side.
(b) The following described types of motor vehicles, of a type subject to registration, shall be equipped with mirrors on both the left- and right-hand sides of the vehicle so located as to reflect to the driver a view of the highway through each mirror for a distance of at least 200 feet to the rear of such vehicle:

The op was in WI, why would CA law apply? Even if he was in CA, only subsection A(1) applies as he's not subject to registration here? Even if it were me, who lives in CA but has a residence in AZ (guess where my Jeeps are registered), again the 2nd mirror requirement doesn't apply. Don't worry, even the law enforcement professionals get it wrong just like you did based off errant assumptions.

 

[NWJeepr]

My pop was a cop. I'm related to several former and retired law enforcement. I considered a career in law enforcement in my young life. That said, it is very difficult to disrespect the respectable... or ridicule something that is not ridiculous.


Don't know about you but my American flag doesn't have a blue line. They don't even pretend anymore.

Who said the flag had a blue line? My comment above was about solidarity with the police and respecting they help stand between order and chaos. But, I should also say, that's as far as that affiliation goes for me...there's a very conservative affiliation there and I want nothing to do with that part of it. In fairness, there is injustice, there are bad cops, and police departments all over America lack important resources. That doesn't stop me from believing most police interactions with civilians are professional and ordinary. Because they are. And in my experience, they have been. Everything an officer has brought to my attention has been my own doing. And every time I've sought an officer's help, I've received the service I pay for. Lucky, I guess? Or, ordinary.

The discussion started as getting pulled over for not having mirrors, and an officer not understanding a nuance of Wisconsin State Law. Pretty minor, if you ask me. I definitely don't see it as a reason to disparage police or doubt that the whole incident was some kind of unlawful harassment by an officer acting outside the scope of his duties. The guy got a warning. And so unfolded 9 pages of bitching.

 

[mwilk012]

Who said the flag had a blue line? My comment above was about solidarity with the police and respecting they help stand between order and chaos. But, I should also say, that's as far as that affiliation goes for me...there's a very conservative affiliation there and I want nothing to do with that part of it. In fairness, there is injustice, there are bad cops, and police departments all over America lack important resources. That doesn't stop me from believing most police interactions with civilians are professional and ordinary. Because they are. And in my experience, they have been. Everything an officer has brought to my attention has been my own doing. And every time I've sought an officer's help, I've received the service I pay for. Lucky, I guess? Or, ordinary.

The discussion started as getting pulled over for not having mirrors, and an officer not understanding a nuance of Wisconsin State Law. Pretty minor, if you ask me. I definitely don't see it as a reason to disparage police or doubt that the whole incident was some kind of unlawful harassment by an officer acting outside the scope of his duties. The guy got a warning. And so unfolded 9 pages of bitching.

Remember to have such grace the next time the dealership screws up something because they didn’t know what they were doing.

I’m going to take my own advice and remove myself from this thread. It’s not productive in any way, and isn’t the purpose of this forum.

 

[jcruse64]

Those other professions for the most part are helping people through their bad day, ie if my house is on fire I'm really glad to see the fire tricks roll up. If my wife needs surgery I'm relieved when the surgeon walks in. Do you get that feeling when the highway patrol shows up? Usually not in my experience.

If an officer of the local town, sheriff, or state shows up on my bumper with lights on, sure, I'm uneasy, whether I know I'm speeding and taking a chance, or some other reason I'm ignorant of. I also get uneasy at the dentist and most any doctor I go to, because maybe the news is not good for me or loved one. What's your point? There are bad docs, nurses, fire fighters, soldiers, and law enforcement officers, but I don't turn around and reason to myself that they all must have weird personalities to go into their chosen professions. And there are DEFINITLEY times that you and I and anyone else of sound mind would be more than happy to see their appearance on the scene. If some jack-wagon shows up at my employer, a movie theater, or a restaurant I'm in and starts shooting it all up, I'm all too happy to see the officers showing up and taking control. At the scene of a car wreck where LEOs show up and work to make the scene safe and assist in recovery and care for victims, or are tasked to try to notify family (I may not want to see them coming to tell me, but appreciate that they do that extremely terrible job). LEO help people through, for some, the worst day of their lives, just like the others I mentioned. LEO are not the only professions mentioned that can make one wish they were NOT seeing a member of that profession in front of them (I lost 2 older friends to one surgeon at a local hospital on the same day several years back. One was an "iffy" success chance going into the heart surgery, but the other was a bad mistake by the surgeon that cost the lady pain and death. I would never entertain discussing health care with that dude.).

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