General Consensus On Brakes & Pads?

[GavinH]

^^^^This. Turning traction control off when you are off-road and experiencing a lot of intentional wheel spin.
Are you in sand dirt a lot when you wheel? The JL's BLD uses the rear brakes to work like a limited slip, when the locker is not engaged, to transfer power to the wheel with more traction. It will wear the brakes faster but improves performance. If so try using your locker in situations where there is a lot of wheel spin.

Primarily what I’m wheeling in so would make sense

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[GavinH]

Its just pads and rotors. You dont change out brake calipers.

I was thinking you did the caliper upgrade as well. Good to know just pads and rotors are the that big of an improvement

 

[19 JLUR Bright Whit3]

I was thinking you did the caliper upgrade as well. Good to know just pads and rotors are the that big of an improvement

I could lock up my tires before too, but the compound of the pads and the slotted rotor reduces fade in the braking due to heat. Does that make sense? ?‍ LOL

 

[GavinH]

I could lock up my tires before too, but the compound of the pads and the slotted rotor reduces fade in the braking due to heat. Does that make sense? ?‍ LOL

Makes perfect sense I was eying the teraflex kit but it’s a couple grand but is a true full brake swap. Powerstop is around $400 for all four corners for pads and rotors I might go through with that. I’m doing ball joints, knuckles, TR, DL when I have off in December so that would be a great time to pop on new rotors.

 

[19 JLUR Bright Whit3]

If you can get the complete Z36 kit for under $600 now, its a steal! I got mine in 2020 for just under $400. LOL

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[calemasters]

Question: Are Mopar pads the best or good enough to buy again? I hear nothing but great things about Mopar pads but my rear is completely worn out at 35k is that normal?

On Monday I started getting this horrible squeal coming from my brakes, I’ve since taken all four apart and regreased all the metal on metal contact points as well as cleaned all the slide pins and regreased those. I’m still getting the squeal and realized it’s metal from the clips rubbing my rotors because the back pads are so worn out the clips are actually making contact. Video of the sound and picture of one of my pads below.

Watch this video before you make your decision. I am going with the OEM brake pads.

 

[AcesandEights]

Doesn't BLD work on the front axle too? If so, why so much more wear in the rear?

 

[golong27]

I just went with the z36 pads on n the stock rotors when I went to 35s and noticed an immediate difference in daily driving and on the trails. Wish I had done the rotors at the same time but pads was an easy upgrade 25k ago.

 

[OSCAR II]

I thought it was odd that my rear brakes wore out before my fronts, interesting. Even in the days of disc front drum rear the rears lasted twice as long as the fronts.

About 40k I needed rear brakes but the fronts were getting close. I went for the complete package of power stop brakes. Thought I got a smokin deal on them at Walmart,.. was about half the price of Qtech.

I can't say I notice any difference at all in stopping power, I'd say they are equal.

The calipers are nothing more then painted stock mopar calipers (they'll tell you that).

At about 80k needed rear brakes again. Thought I could just put pads on it but. After taking the wheels off I found all the rubber was shot! The dust boots on the sliding pins and the outer seal on the piston gone or cracked and crumbling.
I don't know where they get there rubber products from but I would not recommend the calipers! Even my original calipers the rubber parts are still soft and complete today.
In all the years I've worked on cars/trucks I've always got away with one time replacing the pads without having to replace/rebuild the calipers.

 

[OSCAR II]

From another thread on brakes.


"OSCAR II, post: 2481914,
Gotta agree with you on the Powerstops. We got a great deal on them (complete kit) but we didn't notice any difference in braking.

But what was really disappointing was at 40K when they needed pads replaced all the seals were dry rotted just shot. I've never had a brake job where I couldn't get at least one change without having to rebuild the calipers. Even the original calipers the seals are in better condition.
That was about a year and a half ago. Couldn't find seals or pistons anywhere (one was pretty scored up), wound up getting another setup .... had to get it back on the road.

They weren't leaking any fluid thats just from sitting in the box.

 

[limeade]

I swapped stock pads and rotors out for the PowerStop Z36 pads and rotors. It was an improvement over stock with better initial bite and seemed to brake the 37's better. I was still wanting more but not willing to do a complete brake swap to Alcan or Terra Flex yet. I swapped the Z36 pads for Hawk LTS and like them much better than the Z36.

The only other brand I like, but have yet to experience on the JL, are the EBC pads. I ran both the Green and Yellow on my TJ Rubicon with very good results. When I switched to Hawk pads, it was a spur of the moment purchase and the EBC pads were out of stock or else I would've went with EBC.

I personally do not use OEM brake pads as there are too many better options on the market. Regardless of what pad and rotor combo you go with, ensure you bed the brake pads in correctly per the manufacturer's procedure. This is very important and will keep your pads/rotors operating smoothly and correctly.

 

[Heimkehr]

The only other brand I like, but have yet to experience on the JL, are the EBC pads. I ran both the Green and Yellow on my TJ Rubicon with very good results.

I've used the EBC orange (i.e., semi-sintered) in motorcycle applications. While the pad compound is such that rotor wear is mildly accelerated, and expected, the improvement in stopping power was exactly what I was hoping for. Possibly the same would be true in automotive applications.

Do let us know if you install the EBCs on your Jeep, as I'm curious to know if they'd be an upgrade for four wheels, also.

 

[oldcjguy]

Doesn't BLD work on the front axle too? If so, why so much more wear in the rear?

I don't think so, but I'm not sure. It might but the front brakes are much larger and more effective than the rear and rear is active all the time. Front could only be active, if at all, when in 4wd.

 

[Ang1Sgt]

I do wonder just how well my brakes will work out with my Willys. It has the larger HD brake rotors from the factory and on a 2 door would think they would last a longer period of time than in an Unlimited.

The Video shared here is an eye opener. I’ll have to consider some when I need brake pads for my Willys.

 

[Willys41]

Best choice would be the Teraflex Delta brakes with 35 and larger tires
I have them on my 2020 Willys with 37s and about 1200 lb of gear and mods
The 4 piston caliper WITH ANTI KNOCK BACK SPRINGS behind each piston is what gives you that superior brake pedal. The rotors are massive and look and feel like one ton rotors. Also they use Toyota Tundra brake pads so you have a chose of many different pad compounds
The powerstop z36 pads I have on my stock 2018 Rubicon and they work very well put don't buy the powerstop calipers . I called powerstop and they said they are only factory calipers with factory parts painted red
With the Teraflex you will smile every time you put you foot on the brake pedal

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