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seems weird they’d shear coming off unless they were already damaged; had they always been installed with a torque wrench?
Using a 4 way to remove them, he could easily have been pushing down on the end of the 4 way while trying to loosen and snapped them. Those studs are only strong in clamping. They’re not that strong flexing side to side or up down.
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This sounds like a solution waiting for a problem....
 

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My Jeep is all black and grey and I blacked out my piggy KMC bead locks. Those lug nuts would look spicy!
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Speaking of “Hardness Factor”….

I was going to make a funny, but it got away from me way too quick so I had to reel it back in. Nevermind. 🫢

That is a sharp Jeep sir.
 

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Speaking of “Hardness Factor”….

I was going to make a funny, but it got away from me way too quick so I had to reel it back in. Nevermind. 🫢

That is a sharp Jeep sir.
My Dad is a sir, not me, and if you‘ve been on the forum any length of time you know I’m always up for a joke even at my own expense 😂
 

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You're a ma'am??? Geeze, you learn something new every day!
You’ve seen the pics of me @jadmt has posted right? I guess it depends on how I’m feeling on any given day. Plus I’ve earned the title of soy boy, so I’m not sure how that factors in.
 

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I sheared them off removing rear tire by hand using a four-way lug nut wrench. Two studs actually. Bought OEM ones to replace, and some spares just in case.
When the highest strength is needed, steel is the engineering material of choice, with some steel alloys going up to 40-50% past the highest titanium alloys.

In practical terms, there's an appropriate tensile strength for a wheel stud/nut, above which the trade-offs for fracture toughness are less desireable and just going up in fastener diameter is the right answer. ARP makes high strength wheel studs that should give you better strength than OEM, since your needs are beyond OEM design.
 

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i am going to jinx myself but here goes....I have been changing and rotating my own tires/wheels since the 70's and i do 3000-4000 mile rotations on everything I drive....to date you could not possibly count the number of times i removed lug nuts and installed lug nuts and in all those years I have not broken a lug or cross threaded a lug or lug nut....sometimes it pays to be an old beat down drunk....I don't use my impact just old fashioned breaker bar to remove and torq wrench to install.
 

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When the highest strength is needed, steel is the engineering material of choice, with some steel alloys going up to 40-50% past the highest titanium alloys.

In practical terms, there's an appropriate tensile strength for a wheel stud/nut, above which the trade-offs for fracture toughness are less desireable and just going up in fastener diameter is the right answer. ARP makes high strength wheel studs that should give you better strength than OEM, since your needs are beyond OEM design.
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i am going to jinx myself but here goes....I have been changing and rotating my own tires/wheels since the 70's and i do 3000-4000 mile rotations on everything I drive....to date you could not possibly count the number of times i removed lug nuts and installed lug nuts and in all those years I have not broken a lug or cross threaded a lug or lug nut....sometimes it pays to be an old beat down drunk....I don't use my impact just old fashioned breaker bar to remove and torq wrench to install.
Same here. I’ve got some nice walnut we can knock on for good measure though 🤣

I’ve been doing all my own work on every one of my vehicles for over 25 years and the only studs and lug nuts I’ve ever seen damaged have been from the ham-fisted cowboys at the tire shops and lube-joints.

When I have the luxury of using my shop, I have a little 3/8 drive air impact that has just enough ass to bop the lugs loose. From there on out everything else gets done by hand. My other rig has splined nuts so forget about even touching those with a zippy.
 

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Sounds about right, they had 4 bronze in stock when I ordered Jan of 24. Offered to send them and the 5’th when available. I declined mostly due to a possible finish difference between runs, received July.

I did pre order so there was no chance of missing the next run without diligently watching availability.
Next update; the green ones appear to have been sold at $1400 for the set of four. I didn't accept that offer and Custom Offsets matched the manufacturer price on the black set of four. Matched tire racks price on 37s mounted. Bought a steely for the spare. Don't see any others in stock anywhere!
 

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Next update; the green ones appear to have been sold at $1400 for the set of four. I didn't accept that offer and Custom Offsets matched the manufacturer price on the black set of four. Matched tire racks price on 37s mounted. Bought a steely for the spare. Don't see any others in stock anywhere!
$1400 for 4 was cheap. Gotta ask, did the bought ones have the center caps ? What’s with the sets of 4 for Jeep wheels, Wranglers typically need 5 ? Do beware, acorns likely don’t work, the socket rubbed the wheel on my AK2’s, splines needed.
 

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$1400 for 4 was cheap. Gotta ask, did the bought ones have the center caps ? What’s with the sets of 4 for Jeep wheels, Wranglers typically need 5 ? Do beware, acorns likely don’t work, the socket rubbed the wheel on my AK2’s, splines needed.
The $1400 ones had $150 added for shipping, but still a good deal. Neither included center caps. I'll wait till they ship to buy the A-tak1 specific center caps. Sounds like they are made to order locally.
 

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The $1400 ones had $150 added for shipping, but still a good deal. Neither included center caps. I'll wait till they ship to buy the A-tak1 specific center caps. Sounds like they are made to order locally.
I hope you have better luck getting the caps than I did, and they fit the front. If they don’t unless you have a precision drill press pay the machine shop ($40) to not risk drilling thru the expensive caps recommended.
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