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I really like the idea and it's more than I could do.

Still more, I haven't really seen it up close and only comment as an arm chair warrior (wait senior moment---I said some of this already!:idea: ) , but that said--and again--there could have been many reasons why it wasn't designed as such, I wish the forward wall of the device was right up against the back seats. It appears to be further back than that.

I do appreciate that the hinge point on the floor of the cargo area being where it is further towards the rear of the rig than I'd wish lines it up with the Sports Bar, allowing the rig's design to limit access to the inside of the steel box. Were it forward of this, additional fold outs of the device to secure it internally might me necessary.

Yet further the area between the back of the rear seats and the forward wall of the box could be used to store things nobody's interested in sticking their hands into an open rig to steal, like that winter snow brush someone never bothered to take out of the rig for the summer.

On a positive note, the amount of effort that goes into taking an idea from napkin sketch to market is huge: from vendors to source the materials and make it, to the lawyers to patent it and then defend that patent.

Great job!
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I'm assuming you refer to a JL with electric door locks, (as opposed to a really stripped sport with manual windows and doors, etc.) and my testing suggests that once the rig is armed, they cannot.

I believe the button simply doesn't respond. FWIW I don't have proximity locks. Functionality may differ for those with this option. : - )
If I'm waiting for my wife with our Newfie and turn off the Jeep and open and close the door (while remaining inside) and lock the doors, even without setting the alarm, the lock buttons don't work unless I start the Jeep or open the door.
 

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I do wonder if my Jeep can be "hacked" though. If would be thief connected to the door plug or OBD-II with a device, is there a way to unlock the back or even start and drive the Jeep?
I own a backbone cover and after looking at the backbone, slipstream, tuffy and the video of this upcoming item, why go to that much trouble? Give me a 10lb sledgehammer with a 36" handle and I could get into any of these secure covers. None of these will stop a thief with a true desire to access the storage area without regard to noise, etc. They will only prevent the opportunistic thief looking for a quick smash and grab.
 

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I own a backbone cover and after looking at the backbone, slipstream, tuffy and the video of this upcoming item, why go to that much trouble? Give me a 10lb sledgehammer with a 36" handle and I could get into any of these secure covers. None of these will stop a thief with a true desire to access the storage area without regard to noise, etc. They will only prevent the opportunistic thief looking for a quick smash and grab.
Agreed.....but in part the risk/reward calculus changes for the would be thief not knowing if their "smash and grab"--which like any smash and grab has risk of getting caught associated with it---is going to yield them "nothing but air" if the cover shields zilch...

...that and I plan on hooking mine up to 10K Volts on a relay from the JL fob.;)
 

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I own a backbone cover and after looking at the backbone, slipstream, tuffy and the video of this upcoming item, why go to that much trouble? Give me a 10lb sledgehammer with a 36" handle and I could get into any of these secure covers. None of these will stop a thief with a true desire to access the storage area without regard to noise, etc. They will only prevent the opportunistic thief looking for a quick smash and grab.
By this logic... You wouldn't lock your doors to your house, right?
 

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By this logic... You wouldn't lock your doors to your house, right?
I'm not saying that but stating they are not extra sturdy. I own a backbone and continue to use it but realize it's not a deterrent in an isolated area or large parking lot where nobody is around or cares. These are great products especially for soft tops. But I'm not expecting to leave something worth thousands of dollars in the back at a mall or hotel parking lot.
 

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I have a 2 door with the proximity locks and in my tests with the top and doors off there is no way to unlock the back door without the keyfob. Basically all of the door button presses are ignored without they keyfob present.

I do wonder if my Jeep can be "hacked" though. If would be thief connected to the door plug or OBD-II with a device, is there a way to unlock the back or even start and drive the Jeep? One of my other devices has a known hardware fault that allows a person to insert unsigned code that will be ran before boot. To do this you short two exposed connection points. Being a hardware issue there is really no way for it to be fixed. I'd like to see people who figure that stuff out play with a Jeep and see what they can do when they have easy access such as when the doors are off. Not that I'm going to stop taking my doors off or anything, I'm just really not that concerned about it. But I do not believe automotive manufacturers have spent enough time thinking about security when implementing all of the new electronics and communications in vehicles. We tend to think about thieves stealing our Jeeps or our things. But as far as I know my Jeep is sitting in the garage as part of some Chinese botnet right now. It wasn't that long ago that Wired demonstrated just how easy it was to hack a Cherokee remotely. How much have things improved and how does it change when there would be easy access to the interior of the vehicle?
Good post. I know Charlie Miller and he was in contact with Jeep for a while to try and get them to fix the flaws that allowed him to take over the car. No one listened to him until he did that back in 2015 with the reporter in the car. After that, lots listened and the auto industry was not happy. Having a live modem directly connected to the canbus was an issue waiting to happen. Now there are safeguards in place to sandbox off the infotainment system from the systems that control steering and brakes etc. But there are still flaws. Cloud Security and Internet of Things is my specialty, and I spend a lot of time researching this type of thing for my job. There is a lot to be said about getting an older vehicle without all the connectivity, but man they are nice to have. A funny part of all this is that market predictions show that before too long and an automotive company will make just as much selling your data that you generate in your car as when then sell you the actual car. Think about how valuable all that information is that would allow more targeted advertising based on where you go, the routes you take etc.
 

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Damn that spare needs some air!!! This looks like an EXCEPTIONAL product...there when you need it, out of the way otherwise....the want is strong!
 

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I’m getting one as soon as they get them in stock. I really need something because I’m always driving around safari or with the top down and I’ve done a lot of searching and I think this would best suit my needs. Hope it isn’t too expensive! And is easy to install!
 

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I'll be buying this for sure if it lays flat with no points from the install bolts. I camp a LOT in the summer and I need to be able to lay the back seats flat to make full use of the cargo space, but there are times when I also sleep in the back (rainy nights, etc). So as long as I can lay stuff on it without damage, I'll be buying it.
 

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I’m getting one as soon as they get them in stock. I really need something because I’m always driving around safari or with the top down and I’ve done a lot of searching and I think this would best suit my needs. Hope it isn’t too expensive! And is easy to install!
Of course Jenna you could drive in non Safari mode or with the top closed and the suit you need (rather than the one that suits you) won't have to be of the containment variety.

Sorry, bad COVID-19 joke to ease the tension.
 

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I'll be buying this for sure if it lays flat with no points from the install bolts. I camp a LOT in the summer and I need to be able to lay the back seats flat to make full use of the cargo space, but there are times when I also sleep in the back (rainy nights, etc). So as long as I can lay stuff on it without damage, I'll be buying it.
Yup that’s why I want it, it’s the only one I’ve seen that can lay flat.
Of course Jenna you could drive in non Safari mode or with the top closed and the suit you need (rather than the one that suits you) won't have to be of the containment variety.

Sorry, bad COVID-19 joke to ease the tension.
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The 2 door version must be sized for the rear seat removed, right? There’s almost no space behind the rear seat, when installed, in a 2 door.
 

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The 2 door version must be sized for the rear seat removed, right? There’s almost no space behind the rear seat, when installed, in a 2 door.
I don’t think so, I think it’s with the back seats installed. I roll my back seat up about 95% of the time so I really want storage lock that covers most of the cargo space for a two door but can’t find anything.
 

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I don’t think so, I think it’s with the back seats installed. I roll my back seat up about 95% of the time so I really want storage lock that covers most of the cargo space for a two door but can’t find anything.
So it’s for the rear seat folded forward or just for the tiny space with the rear seat locked in place?
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