EVO High Clearance Long Arm Kit Issues

[Moto_21]

Wish I had more time to mess with the jeep this week and hit an alignment but I'll try tomorrow.

Front trackbar axle raised mount came in, installed but had to shorten to center the axle. Put jeep in the air and saw no benefit in the down travel. Decided to skip against the entire drag flip and go back to stock track bar mount.

Gonna just strap it at this point but whole 2" of travel atleast gone for sure.

Hoping alignment comes makes it easier to drive above 50. Still no sway bars but I don't think that's the cause of it getting a little floaty.

Do you have your rear sway bar on? Curious if it contacts the coils with the long arms

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[HackedJL]

Do you have your rear sway bar on? Curious if it contacts the coils with the long arms

Nah Evo didn't supply correct hardware for the swaybars so I skipped install all together. I picked up the hardware needed, if I put back on I'll post clearance pics for you!

I messed up and continued the EVO parts to match like a fool and the inner liners I picked up is another fine example of EVO craftsman ship and quality control. Incorrect hardware for mounting LOL so sick of this company

Literally the best fitment of this entire jeep was the sub $200 amazon Fenders. The mounting and hardware was a breeze

Another can of worms I opened on this build was the secondary rings on my jeep are no where close to the 1/2" mark, and all the way at the bottom of thread can go it seems to be a consistant 1.5" away on each corner

 

[Moto_21]

Nah Evo didn't supply correct hardware for the swaybars so I skipped install all together. I picked up the hardware needed, if I put back on I'll post clearance pics for you!

I messed up and continued the EVO parts to match like a fool and the inner liners I picked up is another fine example of EVO craftsman ship and quality control. Incorrect hardware for mounting LOL so sick of this company

Literally the best fitment of this entire jeep was the sub $200 amazon Fenders. The mounting and hardware was a breeze

Another can of worms I opened on this build was the secondary rings on my jeep are no where close to the 1/2" mark, and all the way at the bottom of thread can go it seems to be a consistant 1.5" away on each corner

oh cool thanks! I took mine completly off cuz it was hitting the coil lol.

Interesting, im at 1-3/4 preload in the front and 2” in the rear, looking like i will have to go to 3” in the rear or swap the bottom coil out for a 250. The ass end is so damn stiff though, front feels good. Originally my timing rings were about 2-1/2” away front and back, moved them to 1-1/4” away but i think im gonna move them back to 2” to soften it up.

The rears for me are binding up on the timing rings before the slider really starts to move so dunno whats going on there.

had a hell of a time with my hardware/fitment too. Most of the hardware wasnt long enough to use the washers, and the front brackets took the larger bolts than they specified, and they were almost too short. Getting the front coilovers in was an absolute bitch, must just be because I have mid arms still, but i could not get it into the lower bracket and if i did the top hole wouldnt line up, had to put the top in, use a bottle jack to raise the shock and push it over the top of it.

sucks the inner liners are being a pain too, im looking to get some as well lol, thinking about AAL liners now with evo cut out

 

[HackedJL]

Made it on the freeway today boys

Almost ready for the trail. Had to order some synergy bump stops to help get to 4", up front I have no more adjustment and shock bottoms before bump stop. Means even if I flip the drag link and tie rod I wouldn't lose up travel

Time for 40s then

 

[Moto_21]

Made it on the freeway today boys

Almost ready for the trail. Had to order some synergy bump stops to help get to 4", up front I have no more adjustment and shock bottoms before bump stop. Means even if I flip the drag link and tie rod I wouldn't lose up travel

Time for 40s then

Thats so odd, my bump is adjusted about half the length yours is and im not having issues, did your evo front ones get cut or something? Looks so good though!

 

[ERAUGrad04]

Made it on the freeway today boys

Almost ready for the trail. Had to order some synergy bump stops to help get to 4", up front I have no more adjustment and shock bottoms before bump stop. Means even if I flip the drag link and tie rod I wouldn't lose up travel

Time for 40s then

Jeep is looking good!

Couple of quick observations based on my experience with the EVO coilover kit on our 2019 JLUR.

For the front bump stops, you are missing the 3-4” aluminum bump that should be installed on the factory bump stop pad. The King bumps should have come with the extension. On our Jeep, I was able to dial in the bump stop by threading it in/out so that the bump was fully compressed just prior to the coilover reaching full compression.

On you timing rings, I would venture a guess that you have the upper and lower springs installed backwards. If I remember correctly, one is a 10” spring and the other is a 12” spring. I made this mistake on the left front corner and experienced the exact issue you are describing.

The fitment of some of the EVO stuff and occasional lack of hardware can definitely be frustrating, but once you get the COs dialed in, it does ride really nice!!

 

[ERAUGrad04]

Here is a shot of the aluminum bump extension that should have come with the King bump stops:

 

[HackedJL]

Jeep is looking good!

Couple of quick observations based on my experience with the EVO coilover kit on our 2019 JLUR.

For the front bump stops, you are missing the 3-4” aluminum bump that should be installed on the factory bump stop pad. The King bumps should have come with the extension. On our Jeep, I was able to dial in the bump stop by threading it in/out so that the bump was fully compressed just prior to the coilover reaching full compression.

On you timing rings, I would venture a guess that you have the upper and lower springs installed backwards. If I remember correctly, one is a 10” spring and the other is a 12” spring. I made this mistake on the left front corner and experienced the exact issue you are describing.

The fitment of some of the EVO stuff and occasional lack of hardware can definitely be frustrating, but once you get the COs dialed in, it does ride really nice!!

Let me review my springs tonight when I finish up work, I'm very curious now but they looked equal in length.

I used the Evo extension which measures 2.5" I believe where the King was 2.75", both just too short. 3.5" I could get away with it. A single hockey puck more lol

Appreciate the feedback and advise from everyone!

 

[ERAUGrad04]

Let me review my springs tonight when I finish up work, I'm very curious now but they looked equal in length.

I used the Evo extension which measures 2.5" I believe where the King was 2.75", both just too short. 3.5" I could get away with it. A single hockey puck more lol

Appreciate the feedback and advise from everyone!

Looking at pictures of our springs before we sent them to powder coat, the front coilovers use a 14” 250lb spring and a 12” 200lb spring.

The 250lb spring should be on the bottom, with the 200lb on top. With the shorter 200lb spring on the top, it will “raise” the slider so that it is within the engagement range of the timing ring.

 

[HackedJL]

Looking at pictures of our springs before we sent them to powder coat, the front coilovers use a 14” 250lb spring and a 12” 200lb spring.

The 250lb spring should be on the bottom, with the 200lb on top. With the shorter 200lb spring on the top, it will “raise” the slider so that it is within the engagement range of the timing ring.

I had a chance to verify and you're right they are different lengths but mine are on correct with the 250 x 14 on bottom

Do you have any added weight? & How is your droop is there any limitations in travel?

 

[ERAUGrad04]

I had a chance to verify and you're right they are different lengths but mine are on correct with the 250 x 14 on bottom

Do you have any added weight? & How is your droop is there any limitations in travel?

The only additional weight upfront is a Warn Zeon 10S and then in the back, the EVO carrier with with the 37” spare.

As for droop, no binding, but it is limit strapped since we are not yet running the long arm kit.

Do you have a picture of where your preload is set at? Based on the picture with the bumpstop (hard to see the preload), it looks like you are sitting a little taller than mine, but not by much. Maybe an inch or so.

Since mine is limit strapped, I’m running less preload/lift, since I don’t have to worry about full extension and unseating the springs. The pic above is right after install, but I just recently adjusted everything after ~10,000mi and set the timing rings about 1-1/2” above the slider. I know EVO suggests 3/4”, but I was looking for a softer ride around town. I figure it only takes 5-10min to adjust if we were to get it out in the dirt where higher speed was expected.

I’ll snap pictures of the front and real coilovers today to show you where everything sits today just for reference.

 

[moodywizard]

The only additional weight upfront is a Warn Zeon 10S and then in the back, the EVO carrier with with the 37” spare.

As for droop, no binding, but it is limit strapped since we are not yet running the long arm kit.

Do you have a picture of where your preload is set at? Based on the picture with the bumpstop (hard to see the preload), it looks like you are sitting a little taller than mine, but not by much. Maybe an inch or so.

Since mine is limit strapped, I’m running less preload/lift, since I don’t have to worry about full extension and unseating the springs. The pic above is right after install, but I just recently adjusted everything after ~10,000mi and set the timing rings about 1-1/2” above the slider. I know EVO suggests 3/4”, but I was looking for a softer ride around town. I figure it only takes 5-10min to adjust if we were to get it out in the dirt where higher speed was expected.

I’ll snap pictures of the front and real coilovers today to show you where everything sits today just for reference.

Hows the ride with short arms? Debating whether to splurge on coilovers first and long arm later or just do all together. Of course if I had infinite funds I would do it all together

 

[HackedJL]

The only additional weight upfront is a Warn Zeon 10S and then in the back, the EVO carrier with with the 37” spare.

As for droop, no binding, but it is limit strapped since we are not yet running the long arm kit.

Do you have a picture of where your preload is set at? Based on the picture with the bumpstop (hard to see the preload), it looks like you are sitting a little taller than mine, but not by much. Maybe an inch or so.

Since mine is limit strapped, I’m running less preload/lift, since I don’t have to worry about full extension and unseating the springs. The pic above is right after install, but I just recently adjusted everything after ~10,000mi and set the timing rings about 1-1/2” above the slider. I know EVO suggests 3/4”, but I was looking for a softer ride around town. I figure it only takes 5-10min to adjust if we were to get it out in the dirt where higher speed was expected.

I’ll snap pictures of the front and real coilovers today to show you where everything sits today just for reference.

This is what I have so far for for the pre load on drivers side, I have 1/4" more on passenger side

Gonna get the synergy strike extensions on and go find a nice rock of my neighbors to test bump lol

 

[ERAUGrad04]

This is what I have so far for for the pre load on drivers side, I have 1/4" more on passenger side

Gonna get the synergy strike extensions on and go find a nice rock of my neighbors to test bump lol

If I were to guess, I think you are running about an inch more lift that I am.

Here is shot of the passenger side COs. Similar to you, I am running about a 1/2” more preload on the passenger side to level the Jeep.

Also for comparison, here is shot of the bump stop. At current height, I have about 4” of up travel before full bump front and rear.

On another note, only after about a month of having the setup, I changed out the sliders to the AGM sliders. The King sliders are 100% functional, but they cause quite a bit of spring noise. The AGM sliders make the COs much quieter and my OCD appreciates it!

 

[ERAUGrad04]

Hows the ride with short arms? Debating whether to splurge on coilovers first and long arm later or just do all together. Of course if I had infinite funds I would do it all together

We have been super happy with the short arms, but to be fair, the Jeep has yet to get any time in the dirt. The short arms do require you to run limiting straps, which limit droop to about 11-12” vs the full 15”.

On my previous Jeep (‘14 JKUR), I ran the full EVO DTD setup with Lever in the rear and their long arm kit. It rode great, but worth noting is the maintenance required with Johnny joints goes up significantly when compared to the maintenance free OEM arms. Figured on this Jeep I’d try the COs while retaining more of the OEM components in an effort to have a great ride without the higher Maintenace associated with all of the non-OEM stuff (arms, steering, axles, etc.).

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