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That is for the Sport model. You cannot order a Rubicon with an Automatic and 3.6 unless it is the E-Torque configuration.
Mine is a Willys....exactly like the one the original poster listed questioning if it was real...so I included my window sticker
 

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Mine is a Willys....exactly like the one the original poster listed questioning if it was real...so I included my window sticker
That's cool. Apparently the Rubicon is unable to option the non E-torque 3.6.
 

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Soooo... if I was to buy a JL, should I go for one that has ESS or eTorque?
 

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Soooo... if I was to buy a JL, should I go for one that has ESS or eTorque?
I’ve had both. The auxiliary batteries are absolute dog shit. I commuted 40+ Highway miles round trip (pre COVID) daily, and my aux was still dying every 3-6 months. At one point they replaced both batteries 3 times in a 3 month period. The aux battery would die while my jeep was sitting at the dealer having other work done to it.

I have a 2021 with eTorque now and love it. Not to mention the “very complicated battery” is covered by a federally mandated 8yr/80k mile warranty because it’s a mild hybrid. I will take that over the crap ESS/aux battery any day.

if I still had the non-eTorque jeep, I’d replace both batteries with a true dual battery setup.
 

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I just looked on the Canadian Jeep site and it looks like the Rubicon is the only trim level that is not available with the V6 auto and no e-torque, every other trim levels you can get the V6/auto without e-torque
 

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if I still had the non-eTorque jeep, I’d replace both batteries with a true dual battery setup.
This is what I'll probably do myself. I agree, get the etorque option. Last I heard the aftermarket dual battery setup still glitches sometimes.
 

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But why are they paying $2500 for the AT? If you choose the 2.0T non e-torque the AT is $1,500.

Sounds like Jeep pockets an extra $1,000 if you choose the V6 non-Etorque AT configuration.
16k miles on my eTorque 3.6 and still no problems, or problem threads that I've seen. Seen a lot of more problem threads on the 2.0 (which is arguably more complex, but it differing ways).

However, there is no such thing as a non-complex modern engine. Que Será, Será.
 

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I just looked on the Canadian Jeep site and it looks like the Rubicon is the only trim level that is not available with the V6 auto and no e-torque, every other trim levels you can get the V6/auto without e-torque
You can only get a Rubicon with the non-eTorque V6 & manual transmission, or a Rubicon automatic only with the 2.0T, or the V6 & auto only on Rubicon XR, or an automatic Sahara only with the V6 eTorque, or a Sport automatic with the non-eTorque V6...

Then the price of the V6 went up but the price of the automatic transmission down; the price of the 2.0T went down but the price of the auto went up...then the price of eTorque went up on Sport and down on Sahara...

:headbang:

I honestly can’t keep track anymore of whatever it is Jeep is trying to do.
 
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I’ve had both. The auxiliary batteries are absolute dog shit. I commuted 40+ Highway miles round trip (pre COVID) daily, and my aux was still dying every 3-6 months. At one point they replaced both batteries 3 times in a 3 month period. The aux battery would die while my jeep was sitting at the dealer having other work done to it.

I have a 2021 with eTorque now and love it. Not to mention the “very complicated battery” is covered by a federally mandated 8yr/80k mile warranty because it’s a mild hybrid. I will take that over the crap ESS/aux battery any day.

if I still had the non-eTorque jeep, I’d replace both batteries with a true dual battery setup.
Why not just delete the idiotic Al Gore start stop BS? That was the first thing I deleted. We're not saving the planet driving a vehicle shaped like a freaking brick anyways LOL.
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