Diesel coming back!?

[DarthAWM]

Just saying but the 2.8 4 cyl from Cummins would be a better market fit

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[Dusty Dude]

Just saying but the 2.8 4 cyl from Cummins would be a better market fit

This^^^

I didn’t buy a diesel specifically because I knew the “little Italian” would be harder to get parts for and it wouldn’t have the reliability that Cummins is known for. Even if the Cummins had an issue, I could get parts and get it repaired practically anywhere in the country.

 

[2nd 392]

You're both right. For the roughly 10% of buyers who choose a manual transmission, the diesel effectively becomes a $6,000 option. For the other 90% who prefer an automatic, it's more accurately viewed as a $4,000 option. If I had to make a singlular statement, I'd call it a $4,000 option because that's the reality for the overwhelming majority of Wrangler buyers.

The same logic applies to the number of doors. Before my EcoDiesel, I had purchased four new 2-door Wranglers with automatic transmissions. When I wanted the diesel, however, I had no choice but to buy a 4-door—my first one ever. Even so, if someone asked me what the diesel option cost, I wouldn't include the price difference associated with the extra two doors.

What really annoyed me was having to buy LED lights in order to buy factory steel bumpers - I hardly ever drive at night. Did that make the steel bumper group a $3K option in 2020? I suppose one could look at it that way.

Precisely- Or trim jump if you want a particular option. The whole schbang if that option was a V8. Price comparison is valid for comparably equipped.
I spent time and effort optioning up a Rubi diesel as close as possible to the V8. Even the cost of parts for a small lift (pre XR), iron knuckles not added because I thought diesel’s got them, nor the 7.5” 44 mm BCD’s. … The V8 was ultimately a mid $5K option over the diesel. ….. Sold.

 

[Ratbert]

As i said beforebwhen we had thisbvery same arguement, I agree that one could argue semantics and how one looks at things, whether it is the cost from a base Jeep Rubocon with a manual or one with an automatic. In the end, it really doesn't matter and not something worth spending the time we already have arguing over. If this really bothers you that I view it as a $6k option versus a base Jeep Rubicon with a manual, then fine I will say a $4k option this time. Happy?

Now please, stop letting such trivial things bother you.

With that logic it was a ~$10K+ option for those that wanted a 2 door.

 

[ALeeL]

With that logic it was a ~$10K+ option for those that wanted a 2 door.

I would not think so since it is completely different model, but if that is the way someone looks at it then it would not bother me enough to make to make a post about it. Although even many review sites like Motor Trend broke it down that way - which it is common to state the costs from a base model. Heck, even the Jeep media reps and engineers at Easter Jeep Safari in Moab broke it down that way when I questioned them about it.

https://www.motortrend.com/news/2020-jeep-wrangler-diesel-cost-6000-gas-powered-model

 

[BDinTX]

Just saying but the 2.8 4 cyl from Cummins would be a better market fit

Maybe it could be used for aa engine swap one day?

 

[Guv]

What do EPA mileage estimates have to do with real world numbers after the vehicle has been modified? Any reduction in fuel economy is solely on the owner at that point.

 

[F4Flyer]

I'd certainly be interested in a small diesel by Cummins but as usually, the emissions equipment will keep me away. It is a bummer since diesel has some real advantages, but I get why it is required. Gas is simpler and does not mind short trips so it is fine. I just wish the 3.6 had 20 more ft/lbs of torque.

 

[Oilburner]

Just saying but the 2.8 4 cyl from Cummins would be a better market fit

150hp/ 300ftlbs ain’t gonna cut it bro-

 

[Guv]

150hp/ 300ftlbs ain’t gonna cut it bro-

Exactly, unless you can do 0-60 in 6 seconds and get 30 mpg people think it’s useless.
For myself, I wouldn’t mind a reliable 150/300, didn’t buy my jeep for drag racing.

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