Baby it's cold outside

[NWJeepr]

I have priors for lambasting and this is my first reply in this thread…I am resisting the urge to lambast.

I thought your priors were "flippant" responses. No? Maybe that was me.

I sense there's some residual hate for my flippant responses on the first three threads about UConnect tracking Jeep owners.

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[GreyWolfJT]

Heading made me think of this!

 

[Jtphoto]

My last thread about it never asked the question. it just pointed out that the heater isnt there and im annoyed by that. Someone suggested (again - I did not ask) that I install something that I have no idea how to install.

Now im asking the question people are lambasting me for asking. This is why this forum is not friendly to people who are new to jeeps.

Well, this will be my 3rd winter with this JL 3.6 up here in North Western Ontario. -35 hasn’t been an issue without the Block heater. Synthetic oil is definitely better for cold weather. BTW mine is the 3.6L e-Torque, 90,000klm and still the original battery.

 

[tk1700]

When I lived in Fairbanks in the 80's we used a heater similar to this:

https://www.amazon.com/YUXIVCNE-TPS...-1-spons&sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9hdGY&psc=1

We also used a battery blanket and heating pad on manual trans. Mobil 1 in the engine and Amsoil in diffs/manual trans as they were the only synthetic oils we could get.

We didn't have garage or inside parking. The only time I had a problem was when the neighbor bumped my cord at the outlet and unplugged it for a 1976 Dodge Power Wagon full time 4wd 440 4 bbl. I was in the field for a week and it was around -25. The battery froze solid. I took the battery inside for 2 days and plugged the truck back in. Once the battery thawed I put it back in and the truck started. The battery had bulged but the case didn't crack.

 

[Ratbert]

When I lived in Fairbanks in the 80's we used a heater similar to this:

https://www.amazon.com/YUXIVCNE-TPS151GT10-000-Pre-Heater-Compatible-TPS151GT8-000/dp/B0DPRN3M18/ref=sr_1_1_sspa

We also used a battery blanket and heating pad on manual trans. Mobil 1 in the engine and Amsoil in diffs/manual trans as they were the only synthetic oils we could get.

We didn't have garage or inside parking. The only time I had a problem was when the neighbor bumped my cord at the outlet and unplugged it for a 1976 Dodge Power Wagon full time 4wd 440 4 bbl. I was in the field for a week and it was around -25. The battery froze solid. I took the battery inside for 2 days and plugged the truck back in. Once the battery thawed I put it back in and the truck started. The battery had bulged but the case didn't crack.

Thanks for trying to make @Brad Hearing even more paranoid?

I'm guessing that was a flooded lead acid battery that wasn't fully charged. Kind of shocking that it'd freeze like that.

 

[Jtphoto]

Thanks for trying to make @Brad Hearing even more paranoid?

I'm guessing that was a flooded lead acid battery that wasn't fully charged. Kind of shocking that it'd freeze like that.

The old batteries would do that. Once it got too cold they simply wouldn’t take a charge so you had to keep the battery warm to charge properly. I had an old Power wagon with dual batteries at one time and one very cold -45 morning the old Dodge started right up so proceeded to try and boost other vehicles that wouldn’t start. Unfortunately for me it took my batteries down so far that both batteries ended up freezing that day because they were to cold to take a charge. Life lesson learned.

 

[LostNotStuck-Yet]

Attn Canadians:
What happened to the requirement that all new cars be equipped with block heaters?
I’m pretty darn sure that in 2012 it was the law (I thought throughout Canada).
I learned this when attempting to get a block heater for my 2011 infiniti G37x and there was no US part available… not even a part # in US service/parts documentation BUT I learned that they were mandatory in Canada.
A buddy of mine picked one up for me at a dealer in BC on his way through and it was a simple install once it arrived (easy easy - just slipped into a cavity cast into the block and it clicked into place held by a spring clip. No tools required!!

Was that law/regulation repealed?
Seemed like a reasonable requirement for the Canadian environment. Good for owners, good for engine longevity, less fuel consumed, and considerably less air pollution.

 

[Jtphoto]

Attn Canadians:
What happened to the requirement that all new cars be equipped with block heaters?
I’m pretty darn sure that in 2012 it was the law (I thought throughout Canada).
I learned this when attempting to get a block heater for my 2011 infiniti G37x and there was no US part available… not even a part # in US service/parts documentation BUT I learned that they were mandatory in Canada.
A buddy of mine picked one up for me at a dealer in BC on his way through and it was a simple install once it arrived (easy easy - just slipped into a cavity cast into the block and it clicked into place held by a spring clip. No tools required!!

Was that law/regulation repealed?
Seemed like a reasonable requirement for the Canadian environment. Good for owners, good for engine longevity, less fuel consumed, and considerably less air pollution.

Apparently not a requirement as of 2022. My custom ordered 2022 with cold weather package didn’t come with one or the option to get one.

 

[Ratbert]

Attn Canadians:
What happened to the requirement that all new cars be equipped with block heaters?
I’m pretty darn sure that in 2012 it was the law (I thought throughout Canada).
I learned this when attempting to get a block heater for my 2011 infiniti G37x and there was no US part available… not even a part # in US service/parts documentation BUT I learned that they were mandatory in Canada.
A buddy of mine picked one up for me at a dealer in BC on his way through and it was a simple install once it arrived (easy easy - just slipped into a cavity cast into the block and it clicked into place held by a spring clip. No tools required!!

Was that law/regulation repealed?
Seemed like a reasonable requirement for the Canadian environment. Good for owners, good for engine longevity, less fuel consumed, and considerably less air pollution.

I searched, but didn't find any legislation.

 

[Pape]

Attn Canadians:
What happened to the requirement that all new cars be equipped with block heaters?
I’m pretty darn sure that in 2012 it was the law (I thought throughout Canada).
I learned this when attempting to get a block heater for my 2011 infiniti G37x and there was no US part available… not even a part # in US service/parts documentation BUT I learned that they were mandatory in Canada.
A buddy of mine picked one up for me at a dealer in BC on his way through and it was a simple install once it arrived (easy easy - just slipped into a cavity cast into the block and it clicked into place held by a spring clip. No tools required!!

Was that law/regulation repealed?
Seemed like a reasonable requirement for the Canadian environment. Good for owners, good for engine longevity, less fuel consumed, and considerably less air pollution.

That would be usual, they will do law for safety anything else is not much of their concern.
Thanks in regard to the installation comment, will need to look it up because JL does not look to have that option at all even in cold weather package that I also have.

 

[tk1700]

Thanks for trying to make @Brad Hearing even more paranoid?

I'm guessing that was a flooded lead acid battery that wasn't fully charged. Kind of shocking that it'd freeze like that.

Just giving him an option for a block heater. Those canister style worked so much better than the freeze plug type.

It was a lead acid battery. Could have been colder than -25. Funny thing is I had been in the field a week for arctic survival school.

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