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Not to mention techs today are absolutely worthless and unable to diagnose an issue without their code reader/scan tool. If your car is not generating an error code for these "certified" robots to look it up in their error book to see the code description, then good luck.

Back in the days you'd call your tech and say, the car makes this sound, smells like that, feels like those..., and he'd be like I got you....come in tomorrow, and bara boom bara beem, you'd be good to go in no time.
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Not to mention techs today are absolutely worthless and unable to diagnose an issue without their code reader/scan tool. If your car is not generating an error code for these "certified" robots to look it up in their error book to see the code description, then good luck.

Back in the days you'd call your tech and say, the car makes this sound, smells like that, feels like those..., and he'd be like I got you....come in tomorrow, and bara boom bara beem, you'd be good to go in no time.
well they can’t even do warranty work unless they can “confirm” the issue and get the repair approved by corporate
 

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Cracked coolant reservoir.

So, that's next, huh? Thanks for the heads up. Time to be pro-active and get one in hand. Where are they cracking? After the water outlet incident a few days ago, I want to inspect other weak points more often to help mitigate downtime.

Life with my JL is allowing me to relive my youth! I drove my old hot rods daily and worked on them nightly...

I knew the risks...

Thanks!

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My Jeep laughs at your 10 week wait! First dealer had it September 16-November 23 (10 weeks, got it day before Thanksgiving) for the third attempt at warranty repair this year. You can see my thread about how they neglected it disassembled in the side lot most of that time. Finally got it back, but there were still error messages on the EVIC, cabin filled with exhaust, mounting bracket fell out of the engine bay 2 days later, and I now have paint damage to the front fender and grille.

Second dealer couldn't get me in for a couple weeks, then had it for another week to fix first dealer's work. In that time both batteries failed, so those had to be replaced. Picked that up day after Xmas. On the way home the rear defrost button stuck down and prevented the HVAC system from receiving any inputs. They ordered the part and it went back in just after New Years for another day.

Now the EVIC message about Start/Stop Not Ready Battery Charging is back, and last week the tailgate strut seized, then bent/broke, and came all the way out. Earliest appointment I could get to have that looked at is next Monday, so back it goes.

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So, that's next, huh? Thanks for the heads up. Time to be pro-active and get one in hand. Where are they cracking? After the water outlet incident a few days ago, I want to inspect other weak points more often to help mitigate downtime.

Life with my JL is allowing me to relive my youth! I drove my old hot rods daily and worked on them nightly...

I knew the risks...

Thanks!

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I’ve been losing coolant down to the MIN line which is right at the reservoir’s seam. Pretty obvious it’s cracked now that it’s turned cold.

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????

Yeah but after 35 years I earned my unemployment. At least I feel like I did.

Apple - So because one guy makes a ton of money managing a multi-billion dollar global company everyone else should make more? Is that just everyone else at Apple or the entire tech industry or just everyone everywhere? How much more should they make?
I figured it was retirement, but couldn't resist a friendly jab!

Regarding, "Apple," it's not just a disparity in tech. Here's some info on the CEO of Ford (because it includes the ratio to mean employee salary).

"Ford CEO Jim Farley received total compensation of $22,813,174 in 2021 for running the company, according to documents the Dearborn automaker released Friday. The ratio of the CEO's total compensation to the median of all employees' total compensation is 356 to 1."

<https://www.freep.com/story/money/c...m-farely-compensation-salary-list/7089308001/>

Stellantis's CEO "...received $18.9 million (16.8 million euro) in direct compensation during his first year leading Stellantis NV." <https://www.detroitnews.com/story/b...s-ceo-carlos-tavares-compensation/6972767001/>

To me, it's not just a matter of (in best cave man voice) "Execs make hard choices and work long hours so should get more money." It's more a matter of these jackholes make more than enough in a single year to never need to work again. Meanwhile their non-executive employees, myself included (I work for a large international company), go 10 years without a raise commensurate to their performance AND considerate of inflation/cost of living in the areas we're required to be in to work for the company.

It took 4+ years and a mass exodus (1000s) of low-level employees for my company to finally respond to calls for pay raises that simply align to inflation. Once we finally received them, we didn't breathe a collective sigh of any relief because our thoughts immediately shifted to, "ok, does this mean we won't get any merit-based raises for the next 3 years?"

When companies have more cash stockpiled than the collective GPD of multiple nations and continue to shower their executives with 10s or 100s of millions of dollars, but standard employees get told:

• "raises for them aren't in the budget this year,"

• or "we just don't have the money replace that increasingly dangerous faulty equipment that might maim or kill you if it fails during use,"

• or, "we know customers get really angry and throw their coffee/burger/drink in your face when they have to wait in long lines or you get their order wrong because of the stress of that line, but we don't have the money to hire more employees"

it becomes easier to see, for me at least, why people are abandoning these situations. They're not abandoning work, mind you, just these types of situations.

These companies could easily disperse 10s or 100s of millions of dollars to their own non-exec employees on a yearly basis and drastically increase the quality of life of millions of people at all economic levels. Yet, they want to stockpile company cash, which makes stock holders (the rich ones capable of buying influence) happy, which means their ridiculous exec pay package will get approved (by said rich stockholders), which means they can now by ANOTHER yacht that is 5ft longer than the one their buddy just bought...

Are there simply people who "just don't want to work" and game the system? Shit yes! But, in my opinion, focusing on that infinitesimally small number of cases is just the distraction the stupid-rich want us to focus on. Much easier to push a rage-inducing narrative abusing "handouts" or "entitlements" rather than find a humane solution that means they can't buy that third Ferrari or vacation home.
 
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I figured it was retirement, but couldn't resist a friendly jab!

Regarding, "Apple," it's not just a disparity in tech. Here's some info on the CEO of Ford (because it includes the ratio to mean employee salary).

"Ford CEO Jim Farley received total compensation of $22,813,174 in 2021 for running the company, according to documents the Dearborn automaker released Friday. The ratio of the CEO's total compensation to the median of all employees' total compensation is 356 to 1."

<https://www.freep.com/story/money/c...m-farely-compensation-salary-list/7089308001/>

Stellantis's CEO "...received $18.9 million (16.8 million euro) in direct compensation during his first year leading Stellantis NV." <https://www.detroitnews.com/story/b...s-ceo-carlos-tavares-compensation/6972767001/>

To me, it's not just a matter of (in best cave man voice) "Execs make hard choices and work long hours so should get more money." It's more a matter of these jackholes make more than enough in a single year to never need to work again. Meanwhile their non-executive employees, myself included (I work for a large international company), go 10 years without a raise commensurate to their performance AND considerate of inflation/cost of living in the areas we're required to be in to work for the company.

It took 4+ years and a mass exodus (1000s) of low-level employees for my company to finally respond to calls for pay raises that simply align to inflation. Once we finally received them, we didn't breathe a collective sigh of any relief because our thoughts immediately shifted to, "ok, does this mean we won't get any merit-based raises for the next 3 years?"

When companies have more cash stockpiled than the collective GPD of multiple nations and continue to shower their executives with 10s or 100s of millions of dollars, but standard employees get told:

• "raises for them aren't in the budget this year,"

• or "we just don't have the money replace that increasingly dangerous faulty equipment that might maim or kill you if it fails during use,"

• or, "we know customers get really angry and throw their coffee/burger/drink in your face when they have to wait in long lines or you get their order wrong because of the stress of that line, but we don't have the money to hire more employees"

it becomes easier to see, for me at least, why people are abandoning these situations. They're not abandoning work, mind you, just these types of situations.

These companies could easily disperse 10s or 100s of millions of dollars to their own non-exec employees on a yearly basis and drastically increase the quality of life of millions of people at all economic levels. Yet, they want to stockpile company cash, which makes stock holders (the rich ones capable of buying influence) happy, which means their ridiculous exec pay package will get approved (by said rich stockholders), which means they can now by ANOTHER yacht that is 5ft longer than the one their buddy just bought...

Are there simply people who "just don't want to work" and game the system? Shit yes! But, in my opinion, focusing on that infinitesimally small number of cases is just the distraction the stupid-rich want us to focus on. Much easier to push a rage-inducing narrative abusing "handouts" or "entitlements" rather than find a humane solution that means they can't buy that third Ferrari or vacation home.
Based on this reply, I don’t think I need to say this but I will anyway…. My initial reply and questions was/were not to be argumentative but to get a better idea and insight of where you were coming from. You make some very valid points that I think are well worthy of a more in depth conversation than can be had via forum threads.

Thank you. I appreciate your thoughts on this.

Stay healthy.
 
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Cracked coolant reservoir. My dealer initially got me in on 2/16 but bumped it up to 1/19 once they realized I have the same ZD8 campaign / recall.
OK so the 2.0 having so many problems is a cracked reservoir and no Loctite on two screws. I have a friend that has a cracked reservoir. I’ll keep an eye on that. Thank you.
 

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To me, it's not just a matter of (in best cave man voice) "Execs make hard choices and work long hours so should get more money." It's more a matter of these jackholes make more than enough in a single year to never need to work again. Meanwhile their non-executive employees, myself included (I work for a large international company), go 10 years without a raise commensurate to their performance AND considerate of inflation/cost of living in the areas we're required to be in to work for the company.

These companies could easily disperse 10s or 100s of millions of dollars to their own non-exec employees on a yearly basis and drastically increase the quality of life of millions of people at all economic levels. Yet, they want to stockpile company cash, which makes stock holders (the rich ones capable of buying influence) happy, which means their ridiculous exec pay package will get approved (by said rich stockholders), which means they can now by ANOTHER yacht that is 5ft longer than the one their buddy just bought...

Are there simply people who "just don't want to work" and game the system? Shit yes! But, in my opinion, focusing on that infinitesimally small number of cases is just the distraction the stupid-rich want us to focus on. Much easier to push a rage-inducing narrative abusing "handouts" or "entitlements" rather than find a humane solution that means they can't buy that third Ferrari or vacation home.
This. Reports every year show CEO and executive pay has continued to climb well beyond that of most employees, and the disparity gets worse every year.

This article from the Economic Policy Institute in August 2021 (and many other sources) says CEO pay was 351 times as much as the median worker.
https://www.epi.org/publication/ceo-pay-in-2020/

"Greedflation" article from Fast Company with similar findings last July:
https://www.fastcompany.com/9077016...bscene-ceo-to-worker-pay-ratios-are-right-now

And another article from the Guardian last June:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...s-workers-institute-for-policy-studies-report

The bullshit stories of "quiet quitting" the last year have been somewhat comical. Executives are trying to push the narrative that doing your job as contracted, within normal hours, is now equivalent to quitting. F-U! Employees are realizing the companies don't care about them, their health, and their well-being and reflecting some of that back.

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Based on this reply, I don’t think I need to say this but I will anyway…. My initial reply and questions was/were not to be argumentative but to get a better idea and insight of where you were coming from. You make some very valid points that I think are well worthy of a more in depth conversation than can be had via forum threads.

Thank you. I appreciate your thoughts on this.

Stay healthy.

Oh, I never took it as argumentative. It's a topic that's been on my mind as my company tells us the things we can't afford to do: 75% of my team is in a different state and most of the 25% with me have never met them. We were made to return to the office after working remote for 2+ years during COVID (another topic of varying opinions...), in the name of "collaboration," but just had a team trip to meet our own team cancelled for "budget concerns". Meanwhile, our CEO is in that 350+:1 range...

So. Much. Hypocrisy.

So it was a chance for me to rant and engage in proper (logical, open-minded, non-judgmental) discussion. And I appreciate you reading my thoughts (rant)! ?
 
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Oh, I never took it as argumentative. It's a topic that's been on my mind as my company tells us the things we can't afford to do: 75% of my team is in a different state and most of the 25% with me have never met them. We were made to return to the office after working remote for 2+ years during COVID (another topic of varying opinions...), in the name of "collaboration," but just had a team trip to meet our own team cancelled for "budget concerns". Meanwhile, our CEO is in that 350+:1 range...

So. Much. Hypocrisy.

So it was a chance for me to rant and engage in proper (logical, open-minded, non-judgmental) discussion. And I appreciate you reading my thoughts (rant)! ?
I read stuff like this and Im even more grateful that I planned far enough ahead to now be “unemployed.” One thing Ive noticed over years of jeeping, dirt bike riding and camping is that no matter what field we are in or what company we work for so many of us have the same concerns and complaints.
 
 







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