My apologies for any collateral damage that may have occurred. From the way I see it the Sports and Sahara's know what they bought and pretty much know their limitations but then you MOAB's come in here with your loose rear ends and try to challenge the Rubicons...well, I just had to say somethingYou just took a dump on anyone that drives a sport, sport s, sahara and Moab. Like 90% of all JL’s on the road. You prove what kinda folks drive rubicons.

No one hates you. Some of us are just having fun. Dang, now I feel badI could have bought a Rubicon, a Sahara or a Moab.
I like all Wranglers.
I choose a Moab.
Why do people hate me?

:cwl:My apologies for any collateral damage that may have occurred. From the way I see it the Sports and Sahara's know what they bought and pretty much know their limitations but then you MOAB's come in here with your loose rear ends and try to challenge the Rubicons...well, I just had to say something![]()

Hahahaha, you forgot:Things MOAB owners say:
- I can't lock it in, this model doesn't have lockers
- No, we can't go with those guys. That is a locker only group
- No, that trail is locker recommended
- Could you help pull my winch cable
- Yeah, she has a limited slip diff
- Lights before lockers bro
- Sir, do want lockers with your Jeep? No
- What I am looking for is something that looks like a Rubicon but doesn't perform like a Rubicon.
Speaking of winches, do you have one on your rig, or have had one in past, what’s your recommendations? I haven’t owned one for many years, and I’m in the market. Been asking around to guys in the know. Sorry to get off topic, just when it was getting good, lol.Hahahaha, you forgot:
No i dont want that stupid steel bumper in the rear only the front!
Gimmee the smallest, loudest tires ya got.
Bro why would i want to disconnect my sway bar anyway!?
Can you winch me out?
I don’t hate you. I don’t hate the Moab either. I really like It when Jeep makes special editions. My only criticism is like the OP’s. If you make a model called Moab, it seems like it should outperform the Rubicon. What would they do to it? Not sure? Start with a Rubi and maybe add 35’s and a small lift with Fox? Maybe special edition 18” wheels?I could have bought a Rubicon, a Sahara or a Moab.
I like all Wranglers.
I choose a Moab.
Why do people hate me?
Ive had a couple. Getting one this week or next for the jl. How much do you want to spend?Speaking of winches, do you have one on your rig, or have had one in past, what’s your recommendations? I haven’t owned one for many years, and I’m in the market. Been asking around to guys in the know. Sorry to get off topic, just when it was getting good, lol.
Sounds like I’m gonna have to spend anywhere from 650-1000. 00 to get something decent.Getting one this week or next. How much do you want to spend?
Ya , Im getting a warn zeon 10k s. I like synthetic because you can just tie a knot on trail if it snaps (cant do that with cable). Also for that range Quadratech winch motors are wound in the same factory as warn. So id go with them for that price. Not sure if it fits in the stock bumper.Sounds like I’m gonna have to spend anywhere from 650-1000. 00 to get something decent.
Ok thanks, I’m putty on the lod destroyer stubby. Sounds like a lot of guys going to the rope, so I’ll probably go that route. Appreciate it.Ya , Im getting a warn zeon 10k s. I like synthetic because you can just tie a knot on trail if it snaps (cant do that with cable). Also for that range Quadratech winch motors are wound in the same factory as warn. So id go with them for that price. Not sure if it fits in the stock bumper.
Ya man, LOD is great i had their Destroyer rear with tire carrier. That thing could take an anti-tank round it was built so well. And it swings open with one finger .... i think quadratech has a stealth series that is 10k and synthetic. Id go that rout if you didnt want to drop over 1300 for the warns.Ok thanks, I’m putty on the lod destroyer stubby. Sounds like a lot of guys going to the rope, so I’ll probably go that route. Appreciate it.
Copy thatYa man, LOD is great i had their Destroyer rear with tire carrier. That thing could take an anti-tank round it was built so well. And it swings open with one finger .... i think quadratech has a stealth series that is 10k and synthetic. Id go that rout if you didnt want to drop over 1300 for the warns.