QTDDTOT: Questions that don't deserve their own thread

[Billy]

Might anyone be able to confirm or refute the idea--and if so why--that tops (hard and soft) for the JL (i.e. the new 2018 2 door) and the JT (i.e. the yet to be released Scrambler truck) might be one and the same?

No confirmation, but no way. That would mean a VERY long JT. Look at the 1/4 windows on the JL, way longer than the back doors of a 4 door. No need for as much space behind the rear seats in the truck.

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[RussJeep1]

Yes, having looked at the pictures both before I posted, and after reading your commentary Billy I agree with your take. Thanks.

 

[CantThinkOfAHandle]

I've just read another review complaining that the steering is slow off-center. For an electric-hydraulic system, is this the sort of problem that might get fine tuned during a production year, or is it more likely intrinsic to the design?

 

[BillyHW]

I've just read another review complaining that the steering is slow off-center. For an electric-hydraulic system, is this the sort of problem that might get fine tuned during a production year, or is it more likely intrinsic to the design?

It has been said by some in other threads and reviews that this is intentional. In an off-road situation you don't want the steering wheel jerked around with every bump and rock you encounter.

 

[CantThinkOfAHandle]

It has been said by some in other threads and reviews that this is intentional. In an off-road situation you don't want the steering wheel jerked around with every bump and rock you encounter.

The most recent comment on this I read was in OffRoad Xtreme:

"Unfortunately, the electro-hydraulic system...was vague and slow off-center."

 

[stinggray]

In what order do you calculate what your pay for your JL?

Assuming I get the JLU Sport at 1% under invoice, that is $29,656.44.

Are any options then added at 100% of FWP as defined by the order guide? Are options added at MSRP? Or, is everything 99% of FWP, base and options included?

Thanks!

 

[FCrackerJLRubi]

In what order do you calculate what your pay for your JL?

Assuming I get the JLU Sport at 1% under invoice, that is $29,656.44.

Are any options then added at 100% of FWP as defined by the order guide? Are options added at MSRP? Or, is everything 99% of FWP, base and options included?

Thanks!

In the case of Tread Lightly, everything is 99% FWP.

Take that 99% FWP (vehicle + options) - say its $10k to keep things simple
Add $1195 destination - $11,195
add local/state taxes - (6% in the case of my state) - $11,866.70
add dealer fee - ($489 in my case) - $12,355.70
add state title / registration / plate fees - (lets just say $60)

Total is $12,415.70

 

[kurt13]

In the case of Tread Lightly, everything is 99% FWP.

Take that 99% FWP (vehicle + options) - say its $10k to keep things simple
Add $1195 destination - $11,195
add local/state taxes - (6% in the case of my state) - $11,866.70
add dealer fee - ($489 in my case) - $12,355.70
add state title / registration / plate fees - (lets just say $60)

Total is $12,415.70

And then add $40,000 for the JL Rubi = $52,415.70

 

[CantThinkOfAHandle]

I am befuddled by the Trail Rail Management System. On a 2-door, does the back seat sit on top of it? Are the anchors removable? Are the rails flush with the floor, or at least also removable? Does the swing gate tray have any useful bearing capacity? Does a crossbar come with the package? Can the whole system be added later? Does the cargo area not have any built-in tie down hooks?

It's cheap enough, I just can't figure out what it's for.

 

[RussJeep1]

May I please have people's opinion on the use of a mechanism like that seen in this YouTube video for the removal and placement of a 4 door hardtop on a Wrangler--presumptively a JLU to be purchased?



Note this was a 2 door in the video.

My one car garage is small to handle rigging this off the ceiling, and my helpers consist of 2 lovely ladies (wife and daughter) each at around 5'0" (i.e. less than idea roof removal partners.) My neighborhood friends are more the country club than do it yourself set.

And sure, there are some aftermarket products that do this well, even if they cost a king's randsom.

I'm figuring that I can buy such a lift from a nearby Harbor Freight, having confirmed that it's angles and heights work, and design myself my own "T" bar, just as this Youtuber did, out of rectangular tubed hole punched rod.

Thoughts? Better ideas?

Thanks

 

[Element32d]

I know mpg isn't important for wranglers but I'll be doing a lot of road driving and I'm basically pricing a sahara right up to a Rubicon so I'm looking at the little things now. Basically, will there be a difference in MPG for a Sahara (LSD, selectrac, all terrain tires) vs Rubicon?

 

[Gboss9]

I know mpg isn't important for wranglers but I'll be doing a lot of road driving and I'm basically pricing a sahara right up to a Rubicon so I'm looking at the little things now. Basically, will there be a difference in MPG for a Sahara (LSD, selectrac, all terrain tires) vs Rubicon?

Look at TFL most recent video on YouTube. They currently have a pre production Sahara with the pentastar and are getting great mileage. They just did a trip from Colorado to Moab over 300 miles and averaged like 22 mpg! I know it doesn't address the Rubicon but you can expect about pretty similar numbers slightly worse with aggressive tires on ruby. I'm getting mine as a daily also and I'm excited with the improvement even though you don't get a wrangler for the gas mileage obviously.

 

[008]

I hated it in my JK when the range miles got below a certain amount it just said low or refuel or some nonsense. Do we know if the JL continues to countdown?

 

[BillyHW]

ranglers but I'll be doing a lot of road driving and I'm basically pricing a sahara right up to a Rubicon so I'm looking at the little things now. Basically, will there be a difference in MPG for a Sahara (LSD, selectrac, all terrain tires) vs Rubicon?

I suspect the Sahara MPG will be slightly better mostly because of the tires.

 

[Gboss9]

I hated it in my JK when the range miles got below a certain amount it just said low or refuel or some nonsense. Do we know if the JL continues to countdown?

Hope so a lot of older cars have had that feature for years.

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