Willys XR vs Rubi XR

[Rockstar08]

No proximity entry on willys.

So I got the rubicon.

Not true you can get Proximty on the Willys!!

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[Craigy]

Not true you can get Proximty on the Willys!!

Did they change this for 22??

Oh well I am probably spending too much money then

 

[Willing&Able]

Not sure if you would plan out this far, but Rubicon may have a higher resale as the top tier offroad package...

 

[aldo98229]

For the love of God, for the nth time: there’s ZERO evidence that Rubicon resale values are higher than other Wrangler’s, once you account for the higher upfront costs.

 

[Drewski777]

Couple of other things as well besides FAD...
- Lockers on Rubicon vs. Limited slip diff on rear of Willy's
- Transfer case
- HD axles
- Tire size 33" vs 32"
- Rock rails on Rubicon
- Offroad+ on Rubicon
- Different hood

Prob more than this, but just what I could come up with. You'd more than likely be perfectly fine with a Willy's based on what you've mentioned. Plus it is likely less money so that should help keep the wife convinced!

35" on xr rubicon, heavy duty 44s with steel nuckles and cv instead of u joint, off road plus, 1.5" lift, fox tuned rubi shocks, tailgate support plate...etc

 

[JeepViking13]

35" on xr rubicon, heavy duty 44s with steel nuckles and cv instead of u joint, off road plus, 1.5" lift, fox tuned rubi shocks, tailgate support plate...etc

All that comes with the Willys Xtreme Recon as well. And don't forget the bead lock wheels and performance breaks.

 

[Krondor]

Sounds like you want the Willy's.

What color are you getting?

 

[Drewski777]

All that comes with the Willys Xtreme Recon as well. And don't forget the bead lock wheels and performance breaks.

Yup, i forgot to mention that lol

 

[Zandcwhite]

XR package comes with 35”s and the same suspension for both Willys and Rubicons, along with the same high line fenders and HD axle and axle ratio 4.56. The sole difference I believe between both with the XR package is the lockers on the Rubicon and electronic sway bar disconnect

And the 4-1 transfer case and hood. If you want the 8.4/alpine system and proximity entry the price difference drops to $2,500 between the 2. On a $50k plus purchase I'll take the convenience of push button sway bar disconnect (great for all types of off roading, really smooths out the ride) and the ability to use lockers if I need them every time. If you want leather (far easier to clean mud off), the Rubicon is the only option.

 

[Twist]

They should be the same with the only differences should be:

Rubicon XR:
-Locking Front & Rear diff
-Electronic swaybar disconnect
-4:1 Transfer case
-8.4 Alpine (Can be added to Willys)

Willys XR
-Limited slip rear diff

Up to you if the added cost of the Rubicon is worth it. The Willys XR is a very capable Jeep, and seems to be a good value.

 

[vegasblue]

Upgraded hood stickers. Can't believe nobody mentioned that.

I use mine in the rocks and mountains. My #1 motivator was the lower transfer case followed by the lockers. I still manually disconnect when I know we are rock crawling. The axles are plenty strong as I have a very light foot. If it goes, knuckles and RCVAs will be added later. Coupled with the Off Road +, she crawls great! The Tazer Mini adds great bells and whistles which would only stand to enhance the Willy's. I use the line lock a good amount.

Honestly, I think the Willy's would be perfect for what you are describing for yourself.

As for resale, I think as the vehicle gets older, a Rubicon may be slightly more sought after and will be slightly more spendy than the Willy's but it does come with a higher starting price tag. I base this off looking for a LJ. While I doubt the JL will ever be the LJR unicorn, it might be more sought after as more moons pass? I wouldn't take resale into consideration even with all this said.

 

[Jeepeto]

After quite a few years of bugging the wife it looks like I finally got the ok to get one. This is after being Jeepless for many a moon. Only had CJ’s and TJ’s before I was married.

My question is, other than the electronic disco’s, what is the difference between the Willys XR and the Rubi XR. Is it really worth the money to get the Rubi if I don’t plan on crawling over boulders? Most of my off road will be logging trails and the occasional ORV park and maybe some Jeep Jamborees. Maybe someday I will do a once in a lifetime trip to MOAB but that depends on the wife and what she thinks.

Willys XR will suit you well. To be completely honest a base model sport will suit you well for your intended use. I ran a BASE model JL sport ($30k jeep new) as my last rig, and took it to Moab many times with great success. Rubi comes with goodies, but they're completely unnecessary. The XR rubi magnifies that even further.

 

[entropy]

Open diffs suck. And the BLD system is frustrating as hell. Rear LSD is alright.

But the willys is an awesome package. You can always add aftermarket lockers later for about 3k but no factory warranty and no resale value on those.

The sway bar disconnect I guess is convenient. However manual disconnects are cheap and easy to install. You do have to get out of the Jeep and get grease on your hands. i really dont mind but some do. I take the simplicity of manual disconnects over the electronic.

4:1 tcase is also a plus. But with the 4.56 and the 2.71:1 tcase youll have plenty of crawling capabilities. Some people think the 4:1 tcase is too much sometimes.

Id personally go Rubi XR if the difference was under 3k. Under 5k i would think about it, the value is there though. But thats me. If it was standard Rubi vs willys XR id go willys XR. You cant go wrong with either honestly.

 

[Zandcwhite]

Upgraded hood stickers. Can't believe nobody mentioned that.

I use mine in the rocks and mountains. My #1 motivator was the lower transfer case followed by the lockers. I still manually disconnect when I know we are rock crawling. The axles are plenty strong as I have a very light foot. If it goes, knuckles and RCVAs will be added later. Coupled with the Off Road +, she crawls great! The Tazer Mini adds great bells and whistles which would only stand to enhance the Willy's. I use the line lock a good amount.

Honestly, I think the Willy's would be perfect for what you are describing for yourself.

As for resale, I think as the vehicle gets older, a Rubicon may be slightly more sought after and will be slightly more spendy than the Willy's but it does come with a higher starting price tag. I base this off looking for a LJ. While I doubt the JL will ever be the LJR unicorn, it might be more sought after as more moons pass? I wouldn't take resale into consideration even with all this said.

Why manually disconnect? I love the push button ease and the tazer allows ot to be disconnected at in speed or transfer case position. It still flexes great running the electronic disconnect in my experience. I can stuff one side to the bump stops while maxing out the 30" long shock on the other.

 

[vegasblue]

Why manually disconnect? I love the push button ease and the tazer allows ot to be disconnected at in speed or transfer case position. It still flexes great running the electronic disconnect in my experience. I can stuff one side to the bump stops while maxing out the 30" long shock on the other.

Few reasons just based on experience. I've seen the sway bar "flip" in the wrong direction destroying the actuator. I do get slightly more travel but it's disconcernable. Mostly because of the damage I saw happen on the trail. I figure the JKS quick discos are cheap and easy insurance. Not to say I do this all the time, only when I know we are doing something challenging. Rest of the time I use the electronics. Cheap redundancy. Trust me, it's a common "But Why?!" question.

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