When does production start again?

[Odyssey USA]

If it’s that communicable, there’s no feasible way to eliminate ALL doses of Covid-19. Those distancing are still getting it somehow as evidenced by a NY study of 100 hospitals saying 66% of those diagnosed were non essential. If you pay attention, there’s nobody saying we can realistically prevent the spread. As in the beginning, distancing is only to prevent overwhelming the hospitals.

If you want to stay home, stay home.

As a fallible layman, considering the Virus dose amount generally correlates to the severity and rate of decline in a patient, perhaps a low dose exposure may be the best short term solution for the generally healthy? The govt isn’t taking care of everybody so they should be allowed to take care of themselves.

If you’re high risk, like my son, Dad, and mother-in-law, stay home like they are...but now I’m more concerned with the study NY did.

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[rallydefault]

Cool. So... production resumes May 18?

lol … maybe?

 

[rallydefault]

there’s no feasible way to eliminate ALL doses of Covid-19

No, there never was. It was about exactly what you said, trying to keep this thing at a level that our hospitals could have a hope of dealing with it, especially the worst cases that require ventilators. Viruses never go away.

Basically what countries are trying to do at this point is keep cases as flat as possible, "treading water," until we get a vaccine. These orders are being put in place because they are our best shot at protecting the most vulnerable which, in my opinion, is what a good-minded society does: protect its weakest members.

You can file for unemployment (most of my family has... I get that pain, trust me). You can receive small business help from the government (my wife's business is doing that). But you can't resurrect the dead.

Telling just the at-risk populations to isolate would not work, in my opinion. Look how hard it is to have everyone isolate. Now you're gonna try and tell small, disparate groups to self-isolate? What do those people tell their bosses when everyone else is back at work? Do you think all private-sector businesses are gonna be cool with some of their workers saying they can't come in because they're at-risk? Is your Dad able to completely isolate himself and not come into contact with literally any other person? And now that you have the majority of the population going about their normal lives, spreading the virus willy-nilly, your at-risk populations that will inevitably come in contact with someone from the majority population will almost certainly get the illness.

 

[JDJL]

Cool. So... production resumes May 18?

Umm... what we were talking about again? Oh yeah.. production dates! It would be great if it does, but I won't believe it until it happens. They've switched the dates so many times

 

[Marlon_JB2]

Production does in fact resume on May 18th.

 

[txj2go]

Production does in fact resume on May 18th.

Then how long before the average dealer receives stock to go on their lot?

How long before quality off the line is equal to what it was 2 months ago?

 

[nerubi]

Then how long before the average dealer receives stock to go on their lot?

How long before quality off the line is equal to what it was 2 months ago?

What I've read on the forum -
6 months to delivery (maybe that was a dealer trying to sell inventory and discouraging people from ordering).
According to another thread there was no quality for any FCA products 2 months ago, 2 years ago, 2 decades ago, so if I extrapolate from those posts it will be never.

Marlon can probably say with more reliability but according to UAW and FCA it seems there will be a slow start up to get the equipment and people back into a groove. He may also be able to say if all shifts have been called back right away or not. But he may not be allowed to comment based on union rules. POTUS says we will be back to full speed instantly. My guess most will get their order delivered 3 - 4 weeks from entering factory IF all parts for your order are available. Some may be held up as suppliers get their work up to speed and delivered. And transport is still not back to normal, especially in states still ordered to stay home.
Quality will be unknown for awhile. It's not a new model year starting up so not as bad as that but bound to be some hiccups.

 

[Marlon_JB2]

There will be a slow startup. 1 shift to start, then 2nd shift will start up later. TNAP only runs 2 shifts, both sides. I am not entirely sure how they're going to do it but it will NOT be immediate. Quality off the line should be the same as it was before, the same people should know all of the jobs on their team. There's not a job on my team that I don't know how to do.

After the Jeep leaves I-Status, it's all up to the shipping companies. We can't control that part, so I can't tell you how long its going to take.

 

[viper88]

Then how long before the average dealer receives stock to go on their lot?

How long before quality off the line is equal to what it was 2 months ago?

It depends on logistics and where the dealer is located. What part of the country? And how many Wranglers go to that dealer and area. Dealers farther from Toledo take longer. There is more transport time.

Most of the wait is after the JLs are built. It takes less then 36 hours to build a JL if there are no constraints. A few things can hold up orders after they are assembled. QC and repairs of defects, additional options that are sub contracted out. Wranglers are transported a few miles away for a third party company to install certain options. Wranglers can wait at the third party if parts are not available. Then the Wranglers are transported back for shipping. Shipping / Transport is a big one. They have to wait for trains and trucks to be filled before shipping to different areas of the country. A truck might get held up for a while waiting for it to be full before leaving if it's going someplace that does not get many Wranglers. I believe all dealers within 300-350 miles of Toledo get shipments directly via truck. Farther dealers get shipments via rail and truck.

It can be less the 2 weeks from order to delivery if everything works out. I ordered my 2019 JLR back in Feb of 2019. Chicago gets deliveries via truck. Chicago gets a lot of Wranglers so trucks fill quickly and leave quickly. Mine only took 11 days from the day I ordered to delivery to dealer.

 

[nerubi]

It depends on logistics and where the dealer is located. What part of the country? And how many Wranglers go to that dealer and area. Dealers farther from Toledo take longer. There is more transport time.

Most of the wait is after the JLs are built. It takes less then 36 hours to build a JL if there are no constraints. A few things can hold up orders after they are assembled. QC and repairs of defects, additional options that are sub contracted out. Wranglers are transported a few miles away for a third party company to install certain options. Wranglers can wait at the third party if parts are not available. Then the Wranglers are transported back for shipping. Shipping / Transport is a big one. They have to wait for trains and trucks to be filled before shipping to different areas of the country. A truck might get held up for a while waiting for it to be full before leaving if it's going someplace that does not get many Wranglers. I believe all dealers within 300-350 miles of Toledo get shipments directly via truck. Farther dealers get shipments via rail and truck.

It can be less the 2 weeks from order to delivery if everything works out. I ordered my 2019 JLR back in Feb of 2019. Chicago gets deliveries via truck. Chicago gets a lot of Wranglers so trucks fill quickly and leave quickly. Mine only took 11 days from the day I ordered to delivery to dealer.

Wonder how long delivery takes to Toledo dealers? I think they pay the same price for delivery as dealers in Alaska.

 

[txj2go]

According to another thread there was no quality for any FCA products 2 months ago, 2 years ago, 2 decades ago, so if I extrapolate from those posts it will be never.

Maybe some people are unlucky, maybe they have habits that are detrimental to the function of their vehicles. The 2 Jeeps that have been in my immediate family have been very good. I know people with RAM pickups that have good luck with them. My dad uses a RAM for a tow truck and its drivetrain has been reliable for a lot of miles. They don't treat the vehicle very well and the rest of the truck seems to deteriorate over time. I swear one of these days I'll see it and it will just be a rolling chassis with a seat and steering wheel, but the engine and trans will still be running well.

 

[Odyssey USA]

No, there never was. It was about exactly what you said, trying to keep this thing at a level that our hospitals could have a hope of dealing with it, especially the worst cases that require ventilators. Viruses never go away.

Basically what countries are trying to do at this point is keep cases as flat as possible, "treading water," until we get a vaccine. These orders are being put in place because they are our best shot at protecting the most vulnerable which, in my opinion, is what a good-minded society does: protect its weakest members.

You can file for unemployment (most of my family has... I get that pain, trust me). You can receive small business help from the government (my wife's business is doing that). But you can't resurrect the dead.

Telling just the at-risk populations to isolate would not work, in my opinion. Look how hard it is to have everyone isolate. Now you're gonna try and tell small, disparate groups to self-isolate? What do those people tell their bosses when everyone else is back at work? Do you think all private-sector businesses are gonna be cool with some of their workers saying they can't come in because they're at-risk? Is your Dad able to completely isolate himself and not come into contact with literally any other person? And now that you have the majority of the population going about their normal lives, spreading the virus willy-nilly, your at-risk populations that will inevitably come in contact with someone from the majority population will almost certainly get the illness.

Unemployment benefit wells are not bottomless. Most small businesses do not get approved. There was not enough money and many waited in que to no avail. That business owner that doesn’t get a govt loan, cannot apply for unemployment. I know this first hand and there are many out there in this situation, thus the panic to start phasing in the reopening ASAP.

Last week I’d have said the best way to stay safe if you’re high risk is to stay home. NY has seen 66% of those diagnosed become infected regardless. If that is accurate, then this must be even more contagious that thought and I think it’s reasonable to say it’s going to be extremely difficult to hide or block it if it’s that aerosolized.

I wish it was as simple as if you do X you will not die. That isn’t and has never been the case. There is no guarantee of a vaccine and this virus, like some past viruses, may just inexplicably disappear as a problem.

If the best odds are still staying at home, which is in doubt now, then yes, you have to stay at home while the rest make your food, deliver and manufacture your goods, and create wealth to help those less fortunate.

As an employer, yes. There’s no way, even if you’re an ass, can you expect someone that is high risk to do more than they’re comfortable with.

Yes, my Dad has cancer and definitely is isolating himself other than going to chemo. My son had a heart transplant and is on immunosuppressive medication. He’s not gone anywhere.

People have to work. We cannot sit for months more idle. We haven’t before and we can’t continue to now. Things like food, medication, surgical procedures, distribution, manufacturing, making a.... living for a virus most will not succumb to is not realistic.

If it’s big enough reason, if we’re principled to stop the world now over this then we all need to wear masks and social distances indefinitely because if the concern is real and it “saves one life” we’d do it. Reality is that the world moves on and can do so cautiously.

Yes... you have to trust your fellow man and woman to do the right thing and they cannot and should not be controlled. There’s places who would happily accommodate those with the belief that govt gets the last word.

Let’s hope there is a vaccine that works and that it comes sooner than later OR, like past epidemics, it vanishes. All the while, there’s work to be done. It’s not an option unless you have a farm and have self subsistence options.

 

[webertiger]

... create wealth to help those less fortunate.

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[Odyssey USA]

Gotcha

Yep. Tax base for national emergencies to print less money.

 

[Dkretden]

The point of the lockdowns were to try to keep the healthcare capacity from being overwhelmed. With the possible exception of NYC, the policy worked.

Now its time to try to keep the economy from burning us all into economic depression. Proactively going back to work with new health safeguards and programs is now essential and I am proud that there are manufacturers/employees around the country doing just that.

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