Wheel sheared off studs

[jav_eee]

I’m kind of surprised that in the last 2 months you never felt a vibration or shimmy, or never heard a thunk or clunk.

right??

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[jkuhn1113]

I am a curious what brought this situation to life? Did you go to the shop and have new wheels installed that required new lug nuts? Did they some how grab the lug nuts from another vehicle when doing some sort of work on your Jeep? Did you pay them to swap out standard lug nuts for locking lug nuts and they installed the wrong ones? Something else?

The wheels I brought for them to install required different lug nuts since the hole wasn’t as wide as the stock. So they got new ones that would fit.

 

[Tool Guy]

Wheel sheared off studs

The wheel studs did not fail in shear. The wheels are hub centric. The wheel studs failed due to fatiuge.

Depends on the wheels, I can assure you my wheels are not hub centric and I'd wager the OP's are not either,

 

[mwilk012]

Studs are generally pretty generic in length and thread and used across many vehicles. Any parts Jeep department even if not on the shelf can have them in an hour or so from the warehouse. Also, chain auto parts store will likely have them.

It’s the base that varies so much, the diameter and length of the shoulder.

 

[mwilk012]

Depends on the wheels, I can assure you my wheels are not hub centric and I'd wager the OP's are not either,

Then the wheels require adapters. You can’t just slap lug centric wheels on a hub centered vehicle and expect good results.

 

[Tool Guy]

Then the wheels require adapters. You can’t just slap lug centric wheels on a hub centered vehicle and expect good results.

That's an interesting point of view to take, considering there are literally millions of vehicles running aftermarket wheels that are not hub centric with no problems at all.

 

[ConqSoft]

Side note, who else checked all their lugs again after reading this thread? ?

 

[gsbrockman]

Side note, who else checked all their lugs again after reading this thread? ?

Not me....but I did set my torque wrench to 130 ft/lbs when I installed my black lug nuts.

 

[jkuhn1113]

Here is the setup. Dirty life wheels. From my understanding on how the dealer explained it to me is that the tire shop used too short of lug nuts. I have had these wheels on two separate jeeps before (2020 gladiator and 2021 wrangler) this one with no issues. However this time I no longer had the lug nuts i used with them since I had to send them with the old stock wheels when I traded the old Jeep in (Misplaced the oem lug nuts). Relied on the tire shop to get lug nuts this time Instead of getting my own again. The estimate includes cause and states all 4 wheels had the wrong lug nuts installed which should be enough for the tire shop to own up to the mistake and handle the costs. Axle shaft is damaged, rotor, brake caliper, the wheel itself, and needing new lug nuts. About $2800 in parts and no labor taken into account.

the second picture is of the other rear wheel.

 

[Maverick909]

Wheel sheared right off of the Jeep’s studs while on a road trip to Florida from Missouri for vacation. What a great start to the week of vacation. Going about 75 miles per hour 45 min from our Airbnb. Cause of malfunction service advisor believes likely loose lug nuts, over torqued, or wrong lug nuts used. still waiting to hear back from them on what all the damages are besides the studs and destroyed wheel. Advised from my insurance to get a hold of the tire shop that installed them and unfortunately they are denying liability since nothing has happened since the install on May 4th. I’ve searched far an wide on here and haven’t been able to find a similar incident. The other rear passenger side is missing a lug nut too.

What a huge damper on the trip my wife and two friends were excited to have a Jeep in Florida and now we have to figure out a way back home and dealing with rental cars. Enterprise won’t let us drive their vehicles back to Missouri because of July 4th week. And then figuring out how to get the Jeep home. We count ourselves lucky that no one was injured with the wheel coming off. Luckily the wheel and tire stayed in the fender so we were safe.

My mistake for trusting a reputable tire shop in my town. Lawyers may have to be involved now. All sorts of should’ve done this or that now. Lesson learned.

UPDATE: Service has verified that the tire shop installed the wrong lug nuts. Too short. Hopefully tire shop will do the right thing. Damage to the rotor and axle shaft as well. Other rear wheel that lost a lug nut also damaged and cannot be put back on the road.

I’ve seen this many times. Typically this failure is due to the tire shop not hand fighting the wheel before impacting it. Typically the lug was not seated properly and the wheel was off center so to speak. Then you get one lug to snap or spin off then the next and the next until total failure.. the only thing the shop can ask is if you retorqued after 150-200 miles from the last tire change, install, or rotation. All aluminum wheels should be retorqued. I’m glad y’all are safe. !!

 

[KeithF]

Also, if the lugs nuts are too short they bottom out on the end of the stud, not holding the wheel tight enough even though they have been torqued. Take a look at competition cars, they use open ended lug nuts for this reason.

 

[ConqSoft]

Also, if the lugs nuts are too short they bottom out on the end of the stud, not holding the wheel tight enough even though they have been torqued. Take a look at competition cars, they use open ended lug nuts for this reason.

Yeah looks like that's exactly what happened in this case.

 

[AdamNash]

Glad everyone is okay OP, that could have been so much worse.
Since it’s the wrong lugs then it’s likely on the tire shop right? I think it’s be hard sell two months later on not being torqued, but this clearly on them right?

 

[jkuhn1113]

Glad everyone is okay OP, that could have been so much worse.
Since it’s the wrong lugs then it’s likely on the tire shop right? I think it’s be hard sell two months later on not being torqued, but this clearly on them right?

Absolutely true. We count ourselves so lucky no one was injured and no other vehicles were involved to make it a huge accident. The situation is still very stressful during the vacation though and hasnt been as relaxing as it should be.

Had to go through my insurance. The tire shop says they didn’t use the wrong lug nuts. The service department doing the work is definitely confused as to why they think that. So my insurance company said what will happen is I pay my deductible and they are going to go after the shop for money and I’ll be refunded if they are successful.

 

[Rodeoflyer]

Makes you wonder what kind of cheap ass splined nuts they used... I also run black splined but gorilla brand.

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