Weathertech mud flaps massive price increase

[y2kcbr600]

Much better than Weathertech and adjustable in the rear, in and out. And works with Rubicon trim. And no drilling new holes. Takes a little time to adjust pieces and get the screws in correctly but worth it.

Yes! I used them on sport and Sahara trims in the past too! I only run the fronts. Plus, when you drive off a curb, the Rockblox will flex and you're less likely to destroy your fender. If you go offroad the quick disconnect finger screws are nice.

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[James Westfall]

I used coffee and chocolate because they have been recently specifically targeted for excessive tariffs, and both the growing of beans and cocoa trees is extremely impacted by climate change, and isn't something we can easily grow in our own country without excessive cost.

...and we don't need either one.

To your point about healthcare, actually, that gets much cheaper when two things happen. One, when the coverage and access side aren't run for profit, and two, when people live healthier lives, but even that's not a safeguard in the current paradigm. Nobody can escape the unexpected, even a healthy person falls on hard times. For the average person, do you think they can just afford a $2.7 million specialty drug treatment for a child who has a rare disease? Or a $500k cancer treatment when such things unexpectedly hit in one's 40's? No.

On number one - In theory, it should. However we haven't seen that work out in practice.
On number two - The rich don't want us healthier. A fatter populace is more profitable.

But, sell your Jeep if you think it will make a difference. I say that genuinely. If that is Step 1 to fixing pricing, and you honestly believe it, be my guest.

 

[NWJeepr]

...and we don't need either one.



On number one - In theory, it should. However we haven't seen that work out in practice.
On number two - The rich don't want us healthier. A fatter populace is more profitable.

There are many examples of industrialized and wealthy nations that manage healthcare costs and provide access for all. We even have one of the most efficient models operating here in the US but it’s limited to the truly vulnerable and the elderly.

Yea, we can live without coffee and chocolate. We can live without a lot of things, including inane economic policies.

 

[Renostever]

Weathertech products are made in the USA and not subject to tariffs,,,

Raw materials are often imported.

 

[James Westfall]

There are many examples of industrialized and wealthy nations that manage healthcare costs and provide access for all. We even have one of the most efficient models operating here in the US but it’s limited to the truly vulnerable and the elderly.

LOL no there aren't. There are some countries that have systems that KINDA work, but they are not remotely comparable to the US. The only example out there that's remotely comparable to the US is Canada, and their system is not working well.

We would need a very different model than anything that's been tried thus far - the ones that work will not scale and the ones that scale do not work. Looking at Medicare - that idea has already been hashed out - scaling Medicare to everyone will not work. There's also the little issue of our government being completely unable to make anything work well ever.

In economics and government, we need fresh ideas if we want to succeed - not re-hashing old crap that failed before. Personally, I think we're just screwed - we can't hand anything over to the government because no matter how bad that thing may be, it always ends up worse. So it's always a question of - "Do we allow greedy rich people who care about nothing but profit run this essential service? Or do we allow it to be run by an entity that can't do anything at all?".

Yea, we can live without coffee and chocolate. We can live without a lot of things, including inane economic policies.

Agreed - but as long as we keep putting the rich in control, the rich are going to do what they want.

 

[NWJeepr]

LOL no there aren't. There are some countries that have systems that KINDA work, but they are not remotely comparable to the US. The only example out there that's remotely comparable to the US is Canada, and their system is not working well.

We would need a very different model than anything that's been tried thus far - the ones that work will not scale and the ones that scale do not work. Looking at Medicare - that idea has already been hashed out - scaling Medicare to everyone will not work. There's also the little issue of our government being completely unable to make anything work well ever.



Agreed - but as long as we keep putting the rich in control, the rich are going to do what they want.

LOL. I’d say those systems work well when anyone can walk in and receive treatment and not have to go bankrupt for unexpected ailments. Canada, the EU, Australia, all seems to work pretty well!

The rich aren’t the problem. It’s the idiots who continue to cede them power.

 

[James Westfall]

LOL. I’d say those systems work well when anyone can walk in and receive treatment and not have to go bankrupt for unexpected ailments. Canada, the EU, Australia, all seems to work pretty well!

Not according to poor Canadians, Europeans, and Australians!

Ask a poor Canadian when was the last time they were able to "walk in and receive treatment". Rich Canadians can get whatever they want when they want it.

The rich aren’t the problem. It’s the idiots who continue to cede them power.

90%+ of the population does this every four years.

 

[Heimkehr]

If both Company A with US-made products and Company B with Chinese-made products are both selling their widgets for $50 each before a 100% tariff goes into effect that only effects Company B, will Company A continue to sell theirs for only $50 when Company B's are now $100 - or will they (or their shareholders) just consider that "leaving money on the table" for no good reason?

The latter, if they have any sense. That's doubly true if Co. A is publicly held, meaning their first duty is to maximize shareholder value.

How many of us have sold an item for well more than we paid for it, if only to capture its growth in perceived value over time? I certainly have.

I'm thinking a true free-market capitalist society such as ours would probably encourage rising prices to match if consumers will still pay that price

Thus the recurrent MSRP growth of Wranglers. That one can easily spend $50K, if not more, on a 2-door Willys that isn't close to being fully optioned is one such illustrative example.

 

[Dusty Dude]

LOL. I’d say those systems work well when anyone can walk in and receive treatment and not have to go bankrupt for unexpected ailments. Canada, the EU, Australia, all seems to work pretty well!

The rich aren’t the problem. It’s the idiots who continue to cede them power.

You obviously have never had any experience with “those systems”.

Cleveland Ohio has more MRI machines than all of Canada.

If you get cancer in Canada, you have to wait 4 months to be seen by your general practitioner, referred to a cancer specialist, and actually receive your first treatment.

 

[Jebiruph]

On my 21 JLUSS, I only had it 2 months, but with no mud flaps it got hinge chips.

I put no-drill Weathertechs on my 22 JLUSS. No rock chip issues for the 3ish years I had it.

I pick up my 25 JLUSS next week, so I ordered another pair of Weathertechs. They have increased in price 248% !!!!

That seems excessive to me. I looked all over, but they appear to be price fixed.

To all you math wizards out there, my $80 is 160% increase over $50 verbiage is intended apply to the context of the original post which relates to $92 being a 248% increase over $37. Did anybody read the first post?

Type this into your calculator 50x160%=, my calculator thinks it's 80.

 

[Twisted10]

 

[Castlenut]

You obviously have never had any experience with “those systems”.

Cleveland Ohio has more MRI machines than all of Canada.

If you get cancer in Canada, you have to wait 4 months to be seen by your general practitioner, referred to a cancer specialist, and actually receive your first treatment.

Yup. Canadian here. Mom died from cancer. Likely wouldn’t have advanced too much if she didn’t have to wait too long. It’s changed a bit since then but it’s still a long wait. An example is usually 1-2 years to get a knee done. Typically it’s just a year for the consultation. Once you have your consult it’s not long after to get the operation. Usually a few months. Non emergency surgeries you can expect a year at least for that call. I know people that got home injuries and needed an MRI or Scan and had to wait over a year to get one.

However, if you pay yourself we can get you in today.

There are exceptions. I’ve rolled into the hospital literally dead and wheeled out in 24 hours and didn’t pay a penny. I’ve had emergency Surgeries done in 72 hours and didn’t pay a penny, because certain criteria were met. Workplace injuries bump you to the front of the line, however things like hurt back or joints you still gotta wait for a year or two depending on severity.

Most of the struggle in Canada is the lack of physicians. They are only allowed to earn so much in a year. Most earn that in 3-4 months and they are capped. Public healthcare has regulations on both ends. Your appointments are 15 minutes and you got one problem at a time. If three things going on, that’s three different appointments.

Does it work? Yes. Does it work well? Sometimes. Will you have a ridiculous bill? Likely no. But sometimes you DO get billed (depending on what’s occurred).

 

[Blue Bear]

Weathertech products are made in the USA and not subject to tariffs,,,

But the materials they are made from quite probably come out of the country, which means the materials are subject to tariffs depending on which country they come from. More expansive materials, more expensive products.

 

[James Westfall]

Thus the recurrent MSRP growth of Wranglers. That one can easily spend $50K, if not more, on a 2-door Willys that isn't close to being fully optioned is one such illustrative example.

The REAL problem is not that we CAN, it's that we DO. The rich have used continually evolving marketing and financing tactics to condition the public to be aloof to price. At the same time, they obsoleted the concept of "affordability", by making it possible for people to buy things FAR beyond their means, and also conditioned us to believe that we NEED things that are completely unnecessary.

We are at a point where there really is no stopping it. Prices will continue to rise at the whims of the rich and no one can (effectively) do anything about it...because we've allowed it to get to this point.
Best approach I can come up with is to start re-training oneself to not feel like we NEED these things we've been fooled in to thinking we need. That's what I've been trying to do. When you aren't buying new vehicles every three years, new phones/tablets/laptops every two, and trying to keep your living space "current" by following the trends you are told you have to keep up with, the price increases on ACTUAL necessities are pretty easy to handle.

 

[James Westfall]

You obviously have never had any experience with “those systems”.

Cleveland Ohio has more MRI machines than all of Canada.

If you get cancer in Canada, you have to wait 4 months to be seen by your general practitioner, referred to a cancer specialist, and actually receive your first treatment.

Yeah anyone who's lived in Canada or has any family/friends that do knows very well how messed up that system is. A life-long friend of mine was bringing her youngest to the US for treatment and finally gave up and just moved here because it became too much of a chore.

The list of stories just like this coming out of Canada is massive. That is NOT a system we want here.

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